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Becker") On 27.09.2024 at 14:32, Jonathan Vollebregt wrote: > Long story short I'd like to suggest: > > 1. Allow the engine to call protected destructors (again) > 2. Warning when declaring a private destructor as with other magic metho= ds > 3. Documentation update to confirm private destructors aren't allowed > > Does this sound good? Hmm, I wonder about the use-cases of userland destructors. It seems to me they are mostly useful for sanity checks, and maybe to close resources. Are there others? If not, I wouldn't worry much about the visibility of destructors, because resources are scheduled for replacement anyway. And since manually calling magic methods came up in the ticket: in my opinion, whenever you have `->__` in production code, you're doing something wrong. Christoph