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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Pre-RFC Discussion] User Defined Operator Overloads
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 20:56:11 -0400
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From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel)


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> On Sep 17, 2024, at 8:05 PM, Jordan LeDoux <jordan.ledoux@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 3:44=E2=80=AFPM Mike Schinkel =
<mike@newclarity.net <mailto:mike@newclarity.net>> wrote:
> <snip>
> Almost everything you have said are things that I have talked about or =
been asked about for years. That is why I have been fairly dismissive =
about them so far, not because I disagree. I am well familiar with these =
discussions, and I was hoping to get new feedback and thoughts through =
this thread. To hear specifics.
>=20
> The specifics I hear from you is something along the lines of "as long =
as you give me a way to force all my code, even code other developers =
wrote, to ignore this feature, I am fine with it". That's not really a =
helpful position at all, even if it IS a valid one.

Since you you do not share my concerns related to your RFC I will not =
spend any more time on this topic.=20

I would close with best of luck, but honestly, I hope for PHP's sake the =
results are the same as last time.

-Mike


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Sep 17, 2024, at 8:05 PM, Jordan LeDoux &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jordan.ledoux@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">jordan.ledoux@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 3:44=E2=80=AFPM =
Mike Schinkel &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mike@newclarity.net" =
class=3D"">mike@newclarity.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><font color=3D"#00afcd" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 175, 205);" =
class=3D"">&lt;snip&gt;</span></font></div></div></div></div></blockquote>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"">Almost everything =
you have said are things that I have talked about or been asked about =
for years. That is why I have been fairly dismissive about them so far, =
not because I disagree. I am well familiar with these discussions, and I =
was hoping to get new feedback and thoughts through this thread. To hear =
specifics.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The =
specifics I hear from you is something along the lines of "as long as =
you give me a way to force all my code, even code other developers =
wrote, to ignore this feature, I am fine with it". That's not really a =
helpful position at all, even if it IS a valid =
one.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><br =
class=3D""></div><div><div>Since you you do not share my concerns =
related to your RFC I will not spend any more time on this =
topic.&nbsp;</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I would close with best =
of luck, but honestly, I hope for PHP's sake the results are the same as =
last time.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>-Mike</div></div><br =
class=3D""></body></html>=

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