Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:125535 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67DF71A00D5 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2024 14:16:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1726237084; bh=IQiQDxGj+ot3O+zx+tg+x7rvsuYV5cKpHnvZD8sdEUI=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=lA3xegbQLHjffKS/Z4TG8dn12Qj1FmrOkGrDGR7diiZ4DcvK34aFYi9kOf+HJ1NR6 09Ld724rmRWxyAE9cglSl7UchFDdPfc7OgoeEeQNGD+20UbxY0R2mmaQHQJcqswovu BghEYRBegTV1RDgckZOucq8QQEot9sawuV0kyBiYjGYPCb/ujGHLMRhHk6qDBNwC1i XV5r64y/O/MhT0D4b9bokiBhwUcdDRm/y+UdsQ1uTqXQn8UpojAGy5L56neXdnltRR pBworVaZ/OfZojbmWa7N9oHP3H286Au61etaQjHblOlDRmhOoY5pU3RQYMGgP8OWnA 8BmHuhy+wG9/A== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12C11801E1 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2024 14:18:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-40136.proton.ch (mail-40136.proton.ch [185.70.40.136]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2024 14:17:59 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gpb.moe; s=protonmail2; t=1726236954; x=1726496154; bh=IQiQDxGj+ot3O+zx+tg+x7rvsuYV5cKpHnvZD8sdEUI=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=EtqDo50v9wFJxjMn6UdgwfsU9QTijxrVqvwJzSNCCTOX5bt+UffF2+I17Jwj/1rRD hFWaGvWb5+UEO2RPTpkkiY8uAuUKMSPWPiGKq8uw8FICUEDGfizkDU7EqNdvUlRx0S FllRvhniTlhm0WslrGq71fKJ0BZhVuEB5AolaP4sk2r3auB20D6gVCy0MsIMSQHDBM 4FYZNpyM3VBrSBfayki0R2sKk+pb54013ARFteBVTDc88C09OoqUfqB1+0A53LgVTV u1MhDp/xhfObri2Sl7ewKPcyY7Lw4qRZYf07I7vvLQbvcvMsqT6u0R+1VoElt1l9zP TIktdlvgJF8eA== Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 14:15:50 +0000 To: Derick Rethans Cc: "Christoph M. Becker" , Jim Winstead , internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What to do with ext/snmp? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <311efdd1-be06-e02a-29e3-a6c4b3a23334@php.net> References: <9791621c-1313-4306-bc6a-5dd789f2b2df@gmx.de> <51FA7D6F-09F6-4267-9B57-5CBD42EA898C@cmpct.info> <57156bdd-cf93-404f-a10c-cd842bd7bb92@app.fastmail.com> <27cbee89-093f-4903-baec-a10058370c33@gmx.de> <311efdd1-be06-e02a-29e3-a6c4b3a23334@php.net> Feedback-ID: 96993444:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: a80f4e70346ac0442c03049ebabf739cfef5ff90 Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internals@gpb.moe ("Gina P. Banyard") On Wednesday, 11 September 2024 at 16:04, Derick Rethans w= rote:=20 > But XML parsing is such an integral part of PHP, that this absolutely > should be in core. For many users, if it's not in core, they can't use > it. Or at least that used to be a big problem. Is XML parsing such an integral part of PHP in 2024? Debatable. And I am very much aware that not having extension bundled used to be an is= sue as hosting providers would not install PECL extensions. But we are working in a different environment today. >=20 > > Having added support for PIE for ext/csv, which was very easy, [2] I > > hope when this tool is finally ready, and we ditch PECL, we will start > > unbundling extensions so that they are not constrained by the PHP > > Engine release cycle. >=20 >=20 > I believe that that is a decision for internals, not just "we". We are on the internals mailing list, obviously "we" refers to internals he= re. Best regards, Gina P. Banyard