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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 22:50:10 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Discontinuing qa.php.net
To: Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>
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	PHP Release Managers <release-managers@php.net>
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On Mon, 9 Sept 2024, 17:54 Derick Rethans, <derick@php.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I am proposing to move all the content away from qa.php.net and merge it
> into php.net
>
> These are the follogwing things currently on the side:
>
> - Documentation on how to write tests
>   (https://qa.php.net/write-test.php), and how to handle bug reports
>   (https://qa.php.net/handling-bugs.php); which should be integrated in
>   wherever we now have internals documentation =E2=80=94 please advise wh=
ere
>   that should go.
>
> - Some goals of the QA team (https://qa.php.net/projects.php), which we
>   can probably remove.
>
> - The latest QA releases (https://qa.php.net/), with SHAs; this should
>   be merged with https://www.php.net/downloads in some fashion. It would
>   also mean that release managers won't have to update two git
>   repositories.
>
> - A whole lot of "make test" reports, last really used in 2017 for PHP
>   7.1: https://qa.php.net/pftt.php =E2=80=94 none of the links to the act=
ual
>   reports work any way. This also takes up nearly 70GB! of data. I
>   recommend we just delete it all.
>
> Opinions?
>
> cheers,
> Derick


I mainly just reference https://qa.php.net/expectf_details.php. I also link
to this from https://github.com/ScriptFUSION/Pip. Keep in mind that PHPUnit
(secretly) supports the PHPT format and the QA site is the only
(un)official reference for its implementation.

I think the QA subsite should be retired as it is very difficult to
discover and accessing the PHPT information is currently somewhat of a dark
art. It should not be hidden. But will the old links still work (read:
redirect) to the new location?

Cheers,
Bilge

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 Sept 2024, 17:54 Derick Rethans, &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:derick@php.net">derick@php.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">Hi!<br>
<br>
I am proposing to move all the content away from <a href=3D"http://qa.php.n=
et" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">qa.php.net</a> and merg=
e it <br>
into <a href=3D"http://php.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">php.net</a><br>
<br>
These are the follogwing things currently on the side:<br>
<br>
- Documentation on how to write tests <br>
=C2=A0 (<a href=3D"https://qa.php.net/write-test.php" rel=3D"noreferrer nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://qa.php.net/write-test.php</a>), and how =
to handle bug reports <br>
=C2=A0 (<a href=3D"https://qa.php.net/handling-bugs.php" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://qa.php.net/handling-bugs.php</a>); wh=
ich should be integrated in <br>
=C2=A0 wherever we now have internals documentation =E2=80=94 please advise=
 where <br>
=C2=A0 that should go.<br>
<br>
- Some goals of the QA team (<a href=3D"https://qa.php.net/projects.php" re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://qa.php.net/projects.p=
hp</a>), which we <br>
=C2=A0 can probably remove.<br>
<br>
- The latest QA releases (<a href=3D"https://qa.php.net/" rel=3D"noreferrer=
 noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://qa.php.net/</a>), with SHAs; this sh=
ould <br>
=C2=A0 be merged with <a href=3D"https://www.php.net/downloads" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.php.net/downloads</a> in s=
ome fashion. It would <br>
=C2=A0 also mean that release managers won&#39;t have to update two git <br=
>
=C2=A0 repositories.<br>
<br>
- A whole lot of &quot;make test&quot; reports, last really used in 2017 fo=
r PHP <br>
=C2=A0 7.1: <a href=3D"https://qa.php.net/pftt.php" rel=3D"noreferrer noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://qa.php.net/pftt.php</a> =E2=80=94 none of =
the links to the actual <br>
=C2=A0 reports work any way. This also takes up nearly 70GB! of data. I <br=
>
=C2=A0 recommend we just delete it all.<br>
<br>
Opinions?<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
Derick</blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
"></div><div dir=3D"auto">I mainly just reference=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://q=
a.php.net/expectf_details.php">https://qa.php.net/expectf_details.php</a>. =
I also link to this from=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/ScriptFUSION/Pi=
p">https://github.com/ScriptFUSION/Pip</a>. Keep in mind that PHPUnit (secr=
etly) supports the PHPT format and the QA site is the only (un)official ref=
erence for its implementation.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">I think the QA subsite should be retired as it is very difficult to =
discover and accessing the PHPT information is currently somewhat of a dark=
 art. It should not be hidden. But will the old links still work (read: red=
irect) to the new location?=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Cheers,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Bilge</div><div dir=3D"auto"></div=
></div>

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