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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Debug Build Container Image for GitHub Packages
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 20:34:48 -0500
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To: Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com>
From: ramsey@php.net (Ben Ramsey)


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> On Sep 2, 2024, at 19:36, Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> On 3.9.2024 02:18:30, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 18:53, Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On 3.9.2024 01:44:21, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 08:11, Go Kudo <zeriyoshi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Hi Internals.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> PHP currently does not provide official container images. Given =
that DockerHub adequately maintains these and considering the =
maintenance costs, we haven't felt the need to change the status quo.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> However, the official DockerHub images lack debug builds, which =
can be somewhat inconvenient when trying to report bugs or reproduce =
issues.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> What if we were to provide debug build container images that are =
compatible with the official DockerHub images? Fortunately, we already =
conduct most of our development on GitHub, which has a container =
registry called Packages.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This could be achieved simply by creating a single repository =
under the php organization on GitHub. What are your thoughts on this?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Best Regards.
>>>>> Go Kudo
>>>>>=20
>>>> Since the folks who do the DockerHub builds already have all the =
infrastructure set up to maintain the images, I think it might be easier =
to work with them to have them provide debug builds.
>>>>=20
>>>> Perhaps there=E2=80=99s someone from that team on this list who can =
speak to that?
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ben
>>>>=20
>>> Hey Ben,
>>>=20
>>> what I'd _really_ like to see is not debug-builds, but debug =
symbols.
>>>=20
>>> Basically, you'd have a docker image "php:8.3" and a docker image =
"php:8.3-dbgsym". The former image then just has a gnu_debuglink. The =
latter has the actual symbols file included and is based on the former.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks,
>>>=20
>>> Bob
>>>=20
>>=20
>> I think the team who manages the Docker builds could also provide =
images with debug symbols. Since they=E2=80=99re already equipped for it =
and have the experience, why don=E2=80=99t we partner with them to =
provide these images to the community?
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Ben
> Yes. Absolutely.
> The problem, however, if you want to provide a build with debug =
symbols and one without, the primary value for me would be being able to =
take a core dump produced in an image without debug symbols and then =
simply open the image with debug symbols and inspect it there.
> To the best of my knowledge however, it isn't trivially possible to =
build two docker images with the same docker build invocation. Basically =
you'd need an intermediary image, from which you then create both (so, 3 =
different docker builds - one base image which has the build and the =
symbols but is not uploaded. And two images where the base images files =
are copied into.). I believe this would not be compatible with the way =
docker-library/php is built currently.
> So, yes, please reach out to them what they are willing to do.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Bob


I opened an issue on their GitHub tracker to gauge their interest: =
https://github.com/docker-library/php/issues/1538

Cheers,
Ben




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