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Becker") On 02.09.2024 at 19:35, Mike Schinkel wrote: >> On Sep 2, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Christoph M. Becker wr= ote: >> >> On 02.09.2024 at 16:51, Mike Schinkel wrote: >> >>> So I am sympathetic to the desire to improve the language. However I f= ear this specific change would create more pain than pleasure. Better IMO = to look for less disruptive solutions to achieve the same goals. For examp= le, if the Enum+Attributes approach meets your needs aside from having too= much boilerplate, maybe we could enhance PHP to have less of that boilerp= late? >> >> ACK > > Can you elaborate on what 'ACK' means in this context? That I fully agree to your statement. (Seems this term might be more common in German newsgroups. :) Christoph