Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:125372 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF1751A00BD for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 17:35:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1725125836; bh=tZofzycKKapesWNgjRK5/BFYEPlahXrEHxa3XQUj/AA=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=DrbgR5xaF1P2ybswwnZWUVxwItvlnt7/l1x+dcx8dPxlgz+EUjdCZZo+Smn7vzta4 8HNFb3SPTVoiF6XhxJ+nzQMpq5rS1dnG7uH6INo0NQ05MgMuIxEHlwwo4MPUIDtdwP kF8+9KJ/EP3AGeXQe4F/B8O4DGO2otWC13J+6Qyvu15Vlobee9ErB5yL8YsT2DtF2S 9MsGnt6bQEPRgBZJeEib02ZAeTYqoXwwvLNw7OcZGO16WJPzjMK2E+qCfEeMiTZOE9 Y5NIHgGZ+ckcYlHRYqx2kpCOAHdMTYl7coVHeLnfDbN0Gi1QUznW9UEFBUNANEVcAk KmWM8PXc+sGig== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6C3180034 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 17:37:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 17:37:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1725125718; bh=tZofzycKKapesWNgjRK5/BFYEPlahXrEHxa3XQUj/AA=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=PuCjGYjA/m0WRxUb6S/8ze0TmGxzTMQ1cQiXGEY/bPeiU16mUwADoAUy6W20T//Mq 29iy0dD77nrXR8vnXjpsmDeyJ1x8nWeFSRR8KPocu2ZhF/SsjaXZ1e/0xsNHHENCl/ tvRbN2jfBrp4o8MiuMcWF1l1kojW80IV9l/CKDe7+iUo9dfM5DNpLYc5YYheoIoGIy XI1qAmzbIpkrJaxyaRd9UtGKNB0vvhkiCq0P+/q4HF4PJmAh2EvZ1C2+/CISesmcGD YiiuHMRPjuxL3bTubHl5oxKbtEru71S0NsgcS5wr1O8rFx0/DWDxk+rc+IRW158WCg Fry3kFVWjAD0Q== Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host86-190-99-134.range86-190.btcentralplus.com [86.190.99.134]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8525A10C033; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 18:35:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 18:35:15 +0100 To: internals@lists.php.net, "Christoph M. Becker" , Jakub Zelenka CC: PHP internals list Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 8.3.11 Released User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <594b4499-7919-496d-a039-1c1afa06b8a1@gmx.de> References: <9b35954d-ae70-4c74-ab85-2ecacfd594fb@gmx.de> <594b4499-7919-496d-a039-1c1afa06b8a1@gmx.de> Message-ID: <2E5F4DF6-CCE0-43BB-9F1B-5E82FFB89EBB@php.net> Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On 31 August 2024 17:56:08 BST, "Christoph M=2E Becker" wrote: >On 31=2E08=2E2024 at 18:05, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:59=E2=80=AFPM Christoph M=2E Becker >> wrote: >> >> There is a note in NEWS about the revert=2E I'm not sure if we usually = do any >> separate announcement for those kind of things=2E I don't remember any = such >> announcement but might be a good idea=2E Although it is really just for >> packagers so not sure if php=2Enet is the right place=2E Maybe just hav= ing this >> discussion here might be enough=2E > >Maybe=2E :) On the other hand, it shouldn't hurt to amend the release >announcement on php=2Enet with something like the following: > >PHP 8=2E3=2E10 introduced an ABI break in the streams layer, which has be= en >reverted in PHP 8=2E3=2E11=2E That means that extensions using the strea= ms >layer which have been built for PHP 8=2E3=2E10 must not be used with othe= r >PHP 8=2E3 versions, and vice versa, that such extensions built for other >PHP 8=2E3 versions must not be used with PHP 8=2E3=2E10=2E > >And maybe note that Windows (and perhaps some other platforms) are not >affected by this=2E > >Christoph Shouldn't we have bumped the API number for this? Better safe than sorry= =2E And I'm wondering why we have no tests for ABI breaks here? I'm sure that = I have seen a report (from Remi?) that highlighted these breakages when I w= as still involved in the mongodb extension=2E=20 cheers Derick