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Becker") On 27.08.2024 at 13:34, Derick Rethans wrote: > Explaining how to install PHP with homebrew, apt or yum makes perfect > sense to me. Nobody really ought to go to www.php.net/download and > compile PHP themselves. But that's the only installation instructions > that we have. Well, it's not *that* bad; there is *some* info available at (although that needs to be updated and generally improved). And yeah, I guess that there are users who do not even know what a tarball is, let alone understand the ./configure, make, make install workflow. And for Windows users, the situation might be worse, since these are used to download some installer, execute it, and are ready to go. Unless they are aware of XAMPP (which is shortly mentioned in the installation guide), or some such, they probably go somewhere else. And that is so easy: you just type "I hate PHP" and press ENTER, and are redirected to a nice site, where you hover over "Downloads" and get your installer with a single click. Christoph