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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 09:49:09 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Default expression
To: Bilge <bilge@scriptfusion.com>
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From: jakob@givoni.dk (Jakob Givoni)

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On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58=E2=80=AFPM Bilge <bilge@scriptfusion.com> wro=
te:

> In case it matters, my initial inclination was also to do what some other=
s
> have suggested, and modify the SEND opcodes so that the default is not
> actually looked up using reflection at all, but rather we just send nothi=
ng
> to the function and it can use its default as it would normally, but sinc=
e
> I had the good sense to ask an engine maintainer how they would approach
> this problem, they cautioned me that this was the approach Stas took 10
> years ago
> <https://github.com/php/php-src/compare/master...smalyshev:php-src:skip_p=
arams7>,
> that that approach was horrendous (paraphrasing) and they would never
> support something like that (mainly because there's like 11 of them and
> modifying them all would be a complete mess).
>
Interesting. Can you elaborate? There's like 11 of what?

Best,
Jakob

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58=E2=80=
=AFPM Bilge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bilge@scriptfusion.com">bilge@scriptfusio=
n.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div>
    <p>In case it matters, my initial inclination was also to do what
      some others have suggested, and modify the SEND opcodes so that
      the default is not actually looked up using reflection at all, but
      rather we just send nothing to the function and it can use its
      default as it would normally, but since I had the good sense to
      ask an engine maintainer how they would approach this problem,
      they cautioned me that this was <a href=3D"https://github.com/php/php=
-src/compare/master...smalyshev:php-src:skip_params7" target=3D"_blank">the
        approach Stas took 10 years ago</a>, that that approach was
      horrendous (paraphrasing) and they would never support something
      like that (mainly because there&#39;s like 11 of them and modifying
      them all would be a complete mess).=C2=A0</p></div></blockquote><div>=
Interesting. Can you elaborate? There&#39;s like 11 of what?</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Best,</div><div>Jakob</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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