Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:125202 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76DEC1A00BD for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:28:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1724563795; bh=2St/+70be1lwIL3x0imnLbvZtWLV9S31bzsh9s+qBYY=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:Cc:In-Reply-To:To:From; b=mf/w95YNgX8lzMuX9ZM8HGszbkmWdAxV1TvxvKXgFhy6jNlBNwy2fULGiualQ8fgk a/zJL6EcMWB2hEYn63kHuyQHwghJT+Vj7y1xa9uXnBn9jxWcjIrm07Iir3CWVifLTJ 5wyaUoJEIBtqYuxwC0WN02lAmRsQsjXlBw2Lu1FUrpCfjL8SJSTSJZI4Ry/Gc7k8Id ZPqxKq6+q9tFuBaVbqkIl9wcAGjv9kZ08ksVJD/vNJuS0ckdLGpd6Y9LBlq+7y9KN0 8z59FeScpgTUpAIR5UfjztjnKI6uP2S4tyyvU6a+P21l1GTiub6wJ3IhTsWw9dUW/c hdL4oCJNlsGBA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7900D180034 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:29:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DMARC_MISSING, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail1.25mail.st (mail1.25mail.st [206.123.115.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [49.48.221.224]) by mail1.25mail.st (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E62F6049A; Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Concept] Flip relative function lookup order (global, then local) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:27:41 +0700 Message-ID: <885C4D84-15AD-42EC-8380-64EB3B086B0B@koalephant.com> References: Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: To: "Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (21F90) From: php-lists@koalephant.com (Stephen Reay) > On 25 Aug 2024, at 06:09, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wro= te: >=20 > this is only a problem for option 1. Fair point.=20 > the short/medium term impact is so big Given the scope of it, I think realistically *any* change suggested here sho= uld aim to target 9.0 for the deprecation (and 10 for the change) to give us= erland a full major release cycle (recent history shows this is ~5 years).=20= As I said earlier, after a couple of decades of exposure to client projects,= I'm not convinced that the top 1000 or even 10000 composer packages is nece= ssarily representative of the majority of userland code in the world.=20 Cheers Stephen=20=