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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 00:50:14 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Time-out Posting to PHP Internals List
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To: Rob Landers <rob@bottled.codes>, Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com>,
 Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>
Cc: Lanre <lnearwaju@gmail.com>, PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker")

On 17.08.2024 at 00:36, Rob Landers wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024, at 22:16, Kris Craig wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 8:11=E2=80=AFAM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>=
 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In the last months, you have had numerous suggestions to keep it civil
>>> on the mailing list, in the "C++ Enhancements" thread [1,2,3,4,5,6], a=
nd
>>> multiple other threads [7,8,9], and by many individuals. Despite that,
>>> you did continue with ad hominems and related belligerent language,
>>> bordering on trolling.
>>>
>>> You have therefore been given a 3-month timeout, which will be enforce=
d
>>> by blocking you from sending email to the php.net domain, including
>>> subdomains.
>>>
>>> Evading, or attempts to evade, this restriction will result in longer
>>> expulsions.
>>>
>>> with kind regards,
>>> Derick Rethans
>>>
>>> [1] https://externals.io/message/124879#124905
>>> [2] https://externals.io/message/124879#124931
>>> [3] https://externals.io/message/124879#124936
>>> [4] https://externals.io/message/124879#124948
>>> [5] https://externals.io/message/124879#124950
>>> [6] https://externals.io/message/124879#124951
>>> [7] https://externals.io/message/123573#123605
>>> [8] https://externals.io/message/124139#124168
>>> [9] https://externals.io/message/123769#123888
>>
>> This message kinda freaked me out until I realized it wasn't directed a=
t me lol.  Couldn't this have just been sent to the individual privately i=
nstead?  I really don't need to see a notification whenever somebody gets =
themselves temp-banned from the list, just saying.
>
> I saw the first few lines on my phone and had a similar wtaf reaction. A=
dding the person=E2=80=99s name in the salutation would help instead of a =
general =E2=80=9Chello=E2=80=9D. But otherwise, I think it is healthy for =
it to be public. Voices silently silenced, even for a good reason, are nev=
er a good thing. Also, it gives people a chance to advocate for the banned=
 or object to the banning, if they so choose.

Spot on!

Christoph