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To me, adding a whole new way of doing things internally without comp= letely removing the old way is just asking for a more brittle, potentiall= y less secure, and harder to maintain codebase. The win of making it easi= er / =22nicer=22 on a subset of developers who might prefer a C++ interfa= ce isn't anywhere near worth the risk IMO. --66ba3130_6b8b4567_b101 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
> I=E2=80=99m considering adding some C++ en= hancements to the Zend API.

I would defi= nitely like to see an R=46C for this if it was to be considered. To me, a= dding a whole new way of doing things internally without completely remov= ing the old way is just asking for a more brittle, potentially less secur= e, and harder to maintain codebase. The win of making it easier / =22nice= r=22 on a subset of developers who might prefer a C++ interface isn't any= where near worth the risk IMO.

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