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On 11/08/2024 17:56, Lanre wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 9:23 AM Nick Lockheart <lists@ageofdream.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
>     Seriously, Don't give up.
>
>     readonly properties were declined in 2014. It's now part of PHP.
>
>     There's many other examples like that.
>
>     Sometimes you just need to beat the dead horse until it turns into
>     Pegasus.
>
>
> What Nick said, I proposed this before you and even implemented the 
> base features, which you then got to build upon, we just have to wait 
> for the next crazy guy to think this is good idea and hopefully he has 
> better luck with convincing the others.
>
> Cheers, Lanre.

I am reminded of a situation I witnessed many years ago in the days of 
my PHP infancy where I observed a guy, whom I think may have been from 
somewhere in East Asia, whom submitted many RFCs (or maybe they were 
just PRs; this could have even been before RFCs), none of which ever 
came even close to passing/getting merged. Yet still he continued on for 
quite some time. I could not fathom how someone would not get the 
message, persevering despite everyone for so long. I do not believe he 
is still around, but now I realise I am at risk of becoming him.

Cheers,
Bilge

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/08/2024 17:56, Lanre wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at
            9:23 AM Nick Lockheart &lt;<a
              href="mailto:lists@ageofdream.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">lists@ageofdream.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
            Seriously, Don't give up.<br>
            <br>
            readonly properties were declined in 2014. It's now part of
            PHP.<br>
            <br>
            There's many other examples like that.<br>
            <br>
            Sometimes you just need to beat the dead horse until it
            turns into<br>
            Pegasus.</blockquote>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>What Nick said, I proposed this before you and even
            implemented the base features, which you then got to build
            upon, we just have to wait for the next crazy guy to think
            this is good idea and hopefully he has better luck with
            convincing the others.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Cheers, Lanre.</div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I am reminded of a situation I witnessed many years ago in the
      days of my PHP infancy where I observed a guy, whom I think may
      have been from somewhere in East Asia, whom submitted many RFCs
      (or maybe they were just PRs; this could have even been before
      RFCs), none of which ever came even close to passing/getting
      merged. Yet still he continued on for quite some time. I could not
      fathom how someone would not get the message, persevering despite
      everyone for so long. I do not believe he is still around, but now
      I realise I am at risk of becoming him.</p>
    <p>Cheers,<br>
      Bilge<br>
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