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The first vote cast > > > > was > > > > for, and of the first four votes cast, three were for and one was > > > > against. As the votes continued to roll in, however, it was clear > > > > which direction the wind was blowing. The final tally reached the > > > > the > > > > 2/3 critical mass required... in the negative. With 20 votes > > > > against > > > > and only 11 for, with one final vote being cast for in the final > > > > few > > > > days, it would not come close to saving this one. With such a > > > > blowout > > > > defeat, I consider this proposal dismissed with prejudice, > > > > meaning > > > > we'll never speak of it again. > > > I like the idea of static classes. > > > > NEVER AGAIN! =F0=9F=98=86 > > Seriously, Don't give up. > > readonly properties were declined in 2014. It's now part of PHP. > > There's many other examples like that. > > Sometimes you just need to beat the dead horse until it turns into > Pegasus. What Nick said, I proposed this before you and even implemented the base features, which you then got to build upon, we just have to wait for the next crazy guy to think this is good idea and hopefully he has better luck with convincing the others. Cheers, Lanre. --000000000000216069061f6b4248 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 9:23=E2=80=AF= AM Nick Lockheart <lists@ageofdr= eam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2024-08-10 at 23:37 +0100, Bilge wrote:
> On 10/08/2024 23:32, Nick Lockheart wrote:
> > > Voting has now concluded for static class. The first vote ca= st
> > > was
> > > for, and of the first four votes cast, three were for and on= e was
> > > against. As the votes continued to roll in, however, it was = clear
> > > which direction the wind was blowing. The final tally reache= d the
> > > the
> > > 2/3 critical mass required... in the negative. With 20 votes=
> > > against
> > > and only 11 for, with one final vote being cast for in the f= inal
> > > few
> > > days, it would not come close to saving this one. With such = a
> > > blowout
> > > defeat, I consider this proposal dismissed with prejudice, > > > meaning
> > > we'll never speak of it again.
> > I like the idea of static classes.
>
> NEVER AGAIN! =F0=9F=98=86

Seriously, Don't give up.

readonly properties were declined in 2014. It's now part of PHP.

There's many other examples like that.

Sometimes you just need to beat the dead horse until it turns into
Pegasus.

What Nick said, I proposed this be= fore you and even implemented the base features, which you then got to buil= d upon, we just have to wait for the next crazy guy to think this is good i= dea and hopefully he has better luck with convincing the others.
=
Cheers, Lanre.
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