Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:124851 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC31E1A00B7 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 15:21:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1723389789; bh=nT9h0dzgS65lc9PQQE96c6zPt4Vh1KRO+xo3FASpTB4=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=n2sjfuNeinuaae4fgNL+Rg0BTByBXLD4Y9YEnq6PhSFsCKqkVNhpicVeG2IU0lxSC FBGGw+ciwz5itSQfaIivizUku/DGaIrTHhiqibngiecSGRjt2oMBrlU2lsUTL/kESn 8F9/jdltwh7f4y19NuinToGvyPxigVgyQwRInqj9OVY/4FhkXfO4YIWB9g4yXfo6RN VqLtSuonLQLBWIdzzhB9tArVfCJUZPyoGiUwmWTe/AHcJ+ps6ohezO20cKz/idpRah hG4zs0v12LVcra+bqup1WyXtcdx9Gx8qObXAxNdMu0aiEePW/c8LIiW49yWxVyMNtO fgS2qPG4Ix0Eg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F9F180068 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 15:23:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from ageofdream.com (ageofdream.com [45.33.21.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 15:23:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ageofdream.com; s=ageofdream; t=1723389683; bh=nT9h0dzgS65lc9PQQE96c6zPt4Vh1KRO+xo3FASpTB4=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=jiQymdpnGmBoNrlqfHVPqFcM8/tpZuRU9Gs6Z35TQsvJDiMZuv216Uxy4pmX5r4e4 7HjTmoewQUdarGjq263MRwiRVtcCxC1fb56a3BjuJ10+Hnozufk8iNRO2Ico/k2bV0 r3IHluZ9DhXo+2fBraB/u7S/yeGfq6f876uclE6mympkWAkDjiHIColDGsnporw25c eUgUK6DQS7VJSOxG7x5NjVf5z0mRbCDxng9ZLcM3tHiXMcDFo5tK6Q8AoEf6d3GXNG KR6Ux7jeR/WroI6W8EDVuSLyAg7Mdi8Ew8puJcfTIcApqO+KW0FnvFc70Y3UglXnLj xudbDDQ7YIcpg== Received: from [192.168.1.7] (unknown [72.255.193.122]) by ageofdream.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 87AA225090 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 11:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <83a26ddc2470aeb4af7c0a2ea6991350a91c980a.camel@ageofdream.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] Static class To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 11:21:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8f4d26f8-4f38-4fa6-b5e0-f05fe3c74e9b@scriptfusion.com> References: <975490b1-8232-4f27-b850-212f6da64b3a@scriptfusion.com> <5a6c8431-011a-49cb-8f33-93f48e018eaf@scriptfusion.com> <8f4d26f8-4f38-4fa6-b5e0-f05fe3c74e9b@scriptfusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.4-2 Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 From: lists@ageofdream.com (Nick Lockheart) On Sat, 2024-08-10 at 23:37 +0100, Bilge wrote: > On 10/08/2024 23:32, Nick Lockheart wrote: > > > Voting has now concluded for static class. The first vote cast > > > was > > > for, and of the first four votes cast, three were for and one was > > > against. As the votes continued to roll in, however, it was clear > > > which direction the wind was blowing. The final tally reached the > > > the > > > 2/3 critical mass required... in the negative. With 20 votes > > > against > > > and only 11 for, with one final vote being cast for in the final > > > few > > > days, it would not come close to saving this one. With such a > > > blowout > > > defeat, I consider this proposal dismissed with prejudice, > > > meaning > > > we'll never speak of it again. > > I like the idea of static classes. >=20 > NEVER AGAIN! =F0=9F=98=86 Seriously, Don't give up. readonly properties were declined in 2014. It's now part of PHP. There's many other examples like that. Sometimes you just need to beat the dead horse until it turns into Pegasus.=20