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From: andreas@heigl.org (Andreas Heigl)

Hey Gina, hey all

Am 08.08.24 um 15:44 schrieb Gina P. Banyard:
> On Wednesday, 7 August 2024 at 17:07, Andreas Heigl <andreas@heigl.org> 
> wrote:
>> Stupid question maybe, but are we voting on the RFC or on the patch?
>>
>> If the patch does not match what.the RFC proposes, then the patch has 
>> a problem. That should IMO though not affect voting on an RFC.
>>
>> Or am I.missimg something?
> 
> In theory, it is the RFC idea.
> In practice, a lot of the times it is the patch for complex features.
> 
> However, it is still within the purview of core developers to veto the 
> implementation of an RFC.
> Which could be the case here rather than voting against the RFC outright.

I have no problem that core developers veto a certain implementation of 
an RFC. I actually expect them to do so.

But the vote should IMO *always and exclusively* be based on the RFC. 
Not on the implementation. If the voting happens based on the 
implementation due to the complexity of the features that means that the 
RFC is not wel written and needs to be improved. Or the implementation 
is problematic and needs to be vetoed by the core developers.

Why do I think so? It becomes completely intransparent why an RFC was 
rejected when the voting happens based on a meager implementation as 
after some years no one will understand why a well written RFC was 
rejected. Especially when the discussion then also happens off-list and 
on the actual code in github as that tears apart the information sources 
that need to be taken into consideration in hindsight.

Also the RFC should specify the implementation. If the implementation 
doesn't match the RFC then the implementation is faulty and needs to 
change until it *does* match the RFC. But that is an implementation 
detail. The voting though should only happen on the description of the 
feature.

My 0.02 €

Cheers

Andreas
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