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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Sandbox API
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From: calvin@cmpct.info (Calvin Buckley)

On Aug 6, 2024, at 3:09=E2=80=AFAM, Nick Lockheart =
<lists@ageofdream.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Sand Box: A first class API that allows unit testing of code with =
mocks
> and stubs of other classes or functions, without the need to modify =
the
> class under test.

This honestly feels like it's going to be a repeat of safe_mode.

What might be better is exposing OS things like Capsicum or unveil when
possible. Capabilities are probably the right way to deal with this kind
of thing, after all.=