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From: weedpacket@varteg.nz (Morgan)

On 2024-07-31 13:07, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 4:26 PM, Tim Düsterhus<tim@bastelstu.be>  wrote:
>> The problem with adding standalone functions for every algorithm is that it would result in a combinatorial explosion of available functions.
> I commented on this but as it was probably missed in a longer reply so I will repeat.
> 
> There is no overwhelming benefit to having a dedicated function for*every*  combination. However I can see a benefits to having a dedicated function for the most commonly used functions.

A problem is that MD5 should _not_ be one of the most commonly used 
algorithms.

Also, providing a dedicated function for an algorithm over and above 
others that don't get such special treatment inflates use of that 
algorithm, making it more commonly used. It becomes self-reinforcing.