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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecations for PHP 8.4
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From: imsop.php@rwec.co.uk ("Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]")
On 27 July 2024 23:14:32 BST, Morgan <weedpacket@varteg=2Enz> wrote:
>Why a SHA2 algorithm? Why not a SHA3 one? How about standalone functions =
for both, and then when SHA4 comes along (as it inevitably will) another st=
andalone function for one of its variants?
You tell me=2E As I have repeatedly said, I don't actually know anything a=
bout these algorithms=2E SHA-256 is the only one on the list which I've hea=
rd of, and I'm aware it's newer than SHA-1=2E I don't know why SHA-512 isn'=
t "better", I don't know why nobody talks about SHA-3, and I don't know if =
one of the others in the list is absolutely amazing and should be everyone'=
s default forever=2E=20
As far as I can see, nobody, in this whole discussion, has actually steppe=
d up and explained what users should be using, once we have taught them tha=
t MD5 and SHA-1 are bad=2E
>Or leave them them the 60-piece set (which includes flat-head and Phillip=
s screwdrivers, so they're not being taken away), and write some tips on ho=
w to use it correctly=2E
So go ahead and write those tips=2E You don't need an RFC vote to improve =
the documentation=2E=20
Here is my offer to those arguing in favour of this deprecation: If you sh=
ow me a draft of a comprehensive improvement to the manual to explain how u=
sers should be choosing a hashing algorithm, I will consider changing my vo=
te=2E
I am also happy to help with proofreading, and working out how to format i=
t into DocBook that fits nicely in the manual=2E=20
As long as the deprecation rests on "somebody in the next 10 years might g=
et round to improving the manual", my vote remains a firm No=2E
Regards,
Rowan Tommins
[IMSoP]