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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 13:02:49 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecations for PHP 8.4
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From: imsop.php@rwec.co.uk ("Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]")



On 26 July 2024 11:03:53 BST, "Gina P=2E Banyard" <internals@gpb=2Emoe> wr=
ote:
>Yet again the PHP community doesn't care about security of its users, cur=
rent and future, and just prefers the convenience of needing to type less c=
haracters and not go back fix some code for better design=2E

This is a gross misrepresentation of what people are saying=2E I am in fav=
our of the *aim* of educating users to use better hashing functions, but I =
don't agree that the proposed deprecation is the right way to achieve that =
aim=2E=20

Maybe some people who already know SHA1 is outdated will be prompted to sa=
y "huh, I hadn't realised we used it there, let's add a backlog task to mig=
rate to something else"=2E But just as likely they'll do that during a secu=
rity audit anyway=2E

The people you really want to reach, those who don't know much about it, w=
ill do a find-and-replace from "sha1(" to "hash('sha1', " and gain nothing=
=2E=20

The deprecation *might* make sense alongside introducing some new function=
s that we want people to discover instead, but on its own, I don't think th=
e benefits outweigh the costs=2E=20

Regards,
Rowan Tommins
[IMSoP]