Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:124603 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E78B21A00B7 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 10:55:37 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1721991432; bh=/8t7/vYS5KM8xKCWDgR8htwYKDOj0Dsax4JjhTx8S7M=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From; b=Te+7j4+1itG7B0NZ7rrErgokDhAtc8vY67nWHU57g/ZlhZP/j8BSj0gVS85uQPNik xim6xdehFD6afKpkFGtcI8KfsMyjEZtmsPJnt9P1MPpw9rJPYwvzugm1BKA5V/HKaJ YbThsOtisz1VKEkRKQPXS8OeNVdez2KawqfJUnUMOUKKVJlNhGKMPDE5JOdDtSb0GX 4tDM7o2GKFYPETG8Nat4QNkphNfofhKLN4bf/plZ7g+6fE77/Zz5RuwhmlF87SsWup VTU4okxfssZrGvfHfFm+MTwl5df7FVQObjP8Ok6xBnjWxkgVJIHCiW/+f4LDD2xo/a u7ciJpYOqKAyQ== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6197180051 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 10:57:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DMARC_PASS, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from next.draugiem.lv (next.draugiem.lv [213.175.75.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 10:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.roze.lv (roze.lv [213.175.74.1]) by next.draugiem.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8775760D for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 13:55:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from NEIROZE (unknown [10.8.0.69]) by mail.roze.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776412009B7FB for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2024 13:55:33 +0300 (EEST) To: "'PHP internals'" References: <1a88918e-e808-d778-45e1-53797660e093@php.net> <95147d9d-d6e8-4396-bf0b-409c33679f90@bastelstu.be> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecations for PHP 8.4 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 13:55:31 +0300 Message-ID: <000001dadf4a$556bc0f0$004342d0$@roze.lv> Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQIxVx3l1DH5lOTlLL//9uMybUiB/QKKdxg+AZxWoRQDCRrkggGNYeEIAV/5Z/8CF3QGI7D6PgYg Content-Language: lv From: r@roze.lv ("Reinis Rozitis") > Yet again the PHP community doesn't care about security of its users, = current and future, and just prefers the convenience of needing to type = less characters and not go back fix some code for better design. > >=20 > Gina P. Banyard If you describe it in such a dramatic fashion, then there is no reason = to keep sha/md5 functionality in hash too? One could come up also with a different statement - "the PHP community = doesn't care about backwards compatibility (in favor of questionable = deprecations/removals)" (which at some point even borders with some = "Karma farming" [1]) [1] = https://socket.dev/blog/openssf-warns-of-reputation-farming-using-closed-= github-issues-and-prs rr