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I don't agree with the sentiment of "given the 2 options available, we prefer the option where we know we are negatively impacting community members consuming token_get_all() in favor of protecting imaginary PHP users that would have been adventurous enough to make use of comments between `yield` and `from`." --=20 Marco Deleu --0000000000000602f6061dc4aaad Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 12:14=E2=80=AFPM = Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] <imsop.php= @rwec.co.uk> wrote:

Odd= ly, the crux of this debate seems to be less that all options have major im= pact, and more that none of them do.=C2=A0

My only disagreement with your statement (and Tim's mes= sages) is that one option *MAY* impact some imaginary PHP users while the o= ther option *IS* impacting community members that are key contributors to t= he success of the language. I don't agree with the sentiment of "g= iven the 2 options available, we prefer the option where we know we are neg= atively impacting community members consuming token_get_all() in favor of p= rotecting imaginary PHP users that would have been adventurous enough to ma= ke use of comments between `yield` and `from`."

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