Newsgroups: php.internals,php.webmaster Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:124391 php.webmaster:31817 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32B791A00B7; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:09:51 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1720707077; bh=4EoQRzYWwMDOYg1W1Gw2nE60GJeFk77mu5+ZiZobUSc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Col6Fil0imAPvafy1WB2lt4uJCyClOH0+qMsISHMh8b4/Zexre89tpg2bk1NAJbZ6 xPq29acuMUnm7rOMK16pbVgQ9UdsZ80lrV3IgESY1vb9nqeCrOi7mszACrqrbxopfq L/QmAtHDZzEuNExVkAlonH+cVJ4/J84R1GuqMUxtofO2/v9AlMf5y09kVWSg2pcNRQ BZDMdj1y28F4VOZZ3IRb2eexWNMD5FcR4P/tbq2PySfwJVOybqaXGiH4bLY9ydaQUv P1CJtA1qEOi8mSGTzUb6zzYwdJCkBAWmmz72VQbRIH3a+mdteGOHV01Sxrql+xhnHK 1+b51A/NJsAKA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE751807E8; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:11:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:11:16 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1720706988; bh=4EoQRzYWwMDOYg1W1Gw2nE60GJeFk77mu5+ZiZobUSc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=X61DIN2dMaw+YPyx2MmWBL2C7voU+BxIABJD79UVzCHtZLHSD7nI/WgGsWvnHtlqq FTwmquVjhUpuKYofQRRdSamb51/OSqJdbA0X+JlWzHry1c1sWjRDRm/CaqMKcsFnbW JKRY6HmnhqJUC8pmQzA0vP3JvPlxulEY1w4XGnFEfy5YiV+2IHBaDu+A+2XNpCnB04 SqpBDxBaG0isDUtWhaARgL+d2h74IMjVnS3GlsHODSGaPujVn/OIblO9xs5DkSCaOX MrjgToZpQpC1Oi8MqvrtQz6AE86SWC6dcz5xIWfXvRXeQpLUJZ0tHeBZgyCiwQ2PvJ 1v0RWCBrQJCcg== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71DE310C010; Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:09:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:09:48 +0100 (BST) To: PHP internals , php-webmaster@lists.php.net cc: Roman Pronskiy Subject: Website Analytics (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Website php.net updates and coordination) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <37416ff5-ea67-0b0e-c741-3e1b089bdc93@php.net> References: Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Wed, 10 Jul 2024, Roman Pronskiy wrote: > 2. Analytics > It is hard to make any decisions without having a reliable source of > stats and data. With more than 17,000 pages, updating all of them is > impractical. Analytics, among other things, will help us prioritize > updates based on page importance. Using a self-hosted Matomo instance > seems a viable option for this. Derick Rethans will follow up with > more details. I have looked at a few different solutions, and the most reasonsable seems to self-host a Mamato (formerly Piwik) instance. This means no analytics data will get send to third parties. I have set up this instance already (https://analytics.php.net, SSL certificate not active yet) and also briefly experimented with it. In order to collect data, we will need to add the following snippet to php-web: https://github.com/php/web-php/commit/aef3309d2508b1e1ca0db5c50c829dfdfa7ee24f By default, nobody (besides me and Roman) would be able to view the analytics either, but I am open to opening this up for other interested members of the PHP development team. I will leave it to Roman to make the case of what sort of information he would like to obtain, and why. Opinions? cheers, Derick