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([2a02:168:4b6e:0:e910:625e:a0da:7e9c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-367cde891d9sm7160537f8f.65.2024.07.11.01.20.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Jul 2024 01:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------JAa00s3AYNUZpsB7N60qDusj" Message-ID: <21a890f7-226c-44e7-bfa4-2564cc74f623@seld.be> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:20:42 +0200 Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-Dev] Versioned Packagers (Iteration IV) To: Michael Morris , PHP internals References: <09559430-4477-4516-8D78-6F4071E1AA6C@newclarity.net> <0182F3D6-F464-477F-9029-A2D0A8B50C71@koalephant.com> <1AFD7AAE-8BEA-460D-88A8-15BB3D30A775@koalephant.com> <1BE6A849-A2A9-4E17-9C11-5099EF74F5C0@rwec.co.uk> <1d0df8f2-541a-4302-a658-4d7d30003342@seld.be> Content-Language: fr In-Reply-To: From: j.boggiano@seld.be (Jordi Boggiano) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------JAa00s3AYNUZpsB7N60qDusj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2024-07-10 20:08, Michael Morris wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 5:51 AM Jordi Boggiano > wrote: > > > As for the rest of the thread, I feel like everyone needs to take > a few days to chill because it's getting a bit heated around here. > > People are passionate about the things they love.  I've been busy with > work and on Iteration V.  Details later this week, likely in the form > of a github repo hosted markdown file that will be easier to follow, > as the number of points to address is getting too lengthy to deal with > in a list conversation and, more worryingly, people are glomming onto > and criticizing the proposal for things already dropped. > Maybe if people are criticizing outdated versions of the spec it's because the first email came up exactly two weeks ago, and you're now on a 5th rewrite, and it all got mangled in the same 130+ email thread here. So yeah maybe someone missed some update.. That's why I said above, maybe take a breather, start a new thread with v5 in a week or two to get a fresh start. Best, Jordi -- Jordi Boggiano @seldaek -https://seld.be --------------JAa00s3AYNUZpsB7N60qDusj Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


On 2024-07-10 20:08, Michael Morris wrote:
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 5:51 AM Jordi Boggiano <j.boggiano@seld.be> wrote:

As for the rest of the thread, I feel like everyone needs to take a few days to chill because it's getting a bit heated around here.

People are passionate about the things they love.  I've been busy with work and on Iteration V.  Details later this week, likely in the form of a github repo hosted markdown file that will be easier to follow, as the number of points to address is getting too lengthy to deal with in a list conversation and, more worryingly, people are glomming onto and criticizing the proposal for things already dropped.

Maybe if people are criticizing outdated versions of the spec it's because the first email came up exactly two weeks ago, and you're now on a 5th rewrite, and it all got mangled in the same 130+ email thread here. So yeah maybe someone missed some update..

That's why I said above, maybe take a breather, start a new thread with v5 in a week or two to get a fresh start.

Best,
Jordi

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