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Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:26:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-568-g843fbadbe-fm-20240701.003-g843fbadb Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <75da173d-0f85-40e4-adf5-0c9f4b31b951@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:25:42 -0700 To: "Derick Rethans" , "PHP Documentation List" , "PHP Developers Mailing List" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Negatively Voted Notes Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: jimw@trainedmonkey.com ("Jim Winstead") On Wed, Jul 10, 2024, at 7:18 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > We discussed this during one of our foundation meetings, and we propos= e: > > - to delete all notes with a rating less than -5 that are older than a=20 > year. > - come up with a plan to crowd source going through the other thousand= s=20 > of notes to see if they need to be deleted or integrated into the=20 > actual text. Each documentation page now has a link to the XML source > (such as https://github.com/php/doc-en/blob/master/language/attribut= es.xml) > > Comments? Yes, please. The original intent for the notes system was to allow low-effort contrib= utions from people who would otherwise not learn how to edit DocBook to = make contributions (and in an era where you couldn't just do easy pull r= equests on GitHub, but had to send patches to a list or send smoke signa= ls or something =E2=80=93=C2=A0it was a long time ago). Notes were never meant to be precious or long-lived, and I don't see any= problem with leveraging the voting feature to automatically cull notes = that have been voted down. Waiting a whole year to eliminate notes with = a large negative rating is probably longer than necessary. Jim