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From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans)

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On Mon, 1 Jul 2024, Lanre wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 2:21=E2=80=AFPM Jorg Sowa <jorg.sowa@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>=20
> > > You don=E2=80=99t make any effort to help or provide constructive cri=
ticism; you
> > just love to (incorrectly) tell everyone what they're doing wrong and h=
ow
> > they should be doing it, without adding anything constructive to the
> > conversation.
> >
> > Please limit to the arguments on the topic, not a person.
> >
> > The argument "Relying on the global mutable state is a bug" is complete=
ly
> > valid and in most of the cases is the signal of bad design. And it has =
been
> > already addressed in some of the functions, look at
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_3 for deprecations on rand
> > functions. However, it's not so trivial to fix everything introducing
> > compatibility-breaking changes. So it shouldn't be advised to add more =
of
> > such functions.
> >
>=20
> It still doesn't make sense. Even if we removed all the functions from my
> list, the entire engine remains filled with global state. Internal
> zend_class_entry instances, arginfo macros, the interned string table,
> executor/compiler/scanner/each-extension globals, and so on=E2=80=94all c=
ontribute
> to global state -- or bugs according to you and Larry, unless your stupid
> argument applies only to languages under your control.

You really need to tone this langauge down. It's not the first time that=20
this has been requested of you. Ad-hominems are not welcome here.

I will point out the mailing list rules once more (only):
https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/docs/mailinglist-rules.md

cheers,
Derick
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