Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:124351 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 548B51A00B7 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:22:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1720625053; bh=91TQoyRrs30uAryjrp0JstwBaHvdakMyq9ykB4xVOQ0=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=kklv/WcibBn5/B9uRmb9v9xgh4CLUAIrNVJwRKEpInj//wWkMT849T606M8+x37u0 ZmPwumI7tynF0OmG4pNAjWgcDeS1MVLZb5wJ1fId/vVVt1OYKW0ZgUGdBHNXwjc0Ri 0cDaVTJHPPo1aauHAmhUupp53VsEPhp+2heQSsIXzdHo4AArTzhtDKWSigN8gBS1Cf 3yeXekEB7izeKODBMEeboLSypM9ug5QBcMgjQX2o8/+q3OwV3QP/UIJeDsZ4G8/Ig/ XqWo5a5mfYJFVmU2JrRK0zJFNf91sJEuIgwrkIKiZLeCJqNLMd2q7g97HcxkvAOh/G aIrZbDwWm9WCA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19691180913 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:24:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,T_SPF_TEMPERROR autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-io1-f46.google.com (mail-io1-f46.google.com [209.85.166.46]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f46.google.com with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-7fa51e8608aso149955639f.0 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=datadoghq.com; s=google; t=1720624962; x=1721229762; darn=lists.php.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=91TQoyRrs30uAryjrp0JstwBaHvdakMyq9ykB4xVOQ0=; b=OWtAmYWxCXRiV1oeg5wrWWpCdfbncHwkfnhhL0xyg81ditZQ8PwiNMtebYVK51t5ul B9UpOAY6BuVcNA49mlmQf7w0VBI9hkmSwp08TsfUp5O3B4Ovp6c4XIXtHQK9/2CcloZE R1cbtsrNcXn+GfeZt9kKjW3zF9Z6WiKsJP8eI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1720624962; x=1721229762; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=91TQoyRrs30uAryjrp0JstwBaHvdakMyq9ykB4xVOQ0=; b=BUPKi05zMYK1B7qK2PV9sSB5XsYyb11R4hjmXExjDIL3WdudcvFTA08cM49Ibich6n X6f79lqcEpopBZWok2SHbqsbX2NJorMJlLboTu9LcDrDN4GzNe2sUSe9wR/A5TJ9d9xQ 1AaUftIEakzyYDQPQzqNEBuZHiHP9uhn3Y63wO+fMmLtBu3q+DFzJWLVih3VjvDIKodK fS2bb7qfRwBm2xkg+1zEhkt53tpJRW0atjcS9pZyC5M17PxsL4k2gvd/eSfTwqqjadSt DNd21XJ7Nw8krTPvPwaQpb5/DrlGsiF6J5bbFQ7+IM7ZMdHvNopWIUlMp5ojhOGvQUa+ M2xw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywcz5JnToCF6TJYQ3cMgpikvuij5ju56rXBvMu7k6WCdZEHiVwB vKT2g8sN/QSy6kspJJD9S6l+c9j9Fmbi7UFOc1rdlgmIz+JO08phqqp0QO7SEePH/yLdwZKxIlR NMsHn9GI1bZ2HpjA/ig0R+td9osQOYWRMibhUen/wQu/2maoq X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IExxEPwyYzaKf/VsaHY9Onzsek7I9HKVGfihOOK7s2lcTlAbCzWH5Ki8uOZqN9XQVA8mKYNltnWZwxQicyyo94= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:9510:0:b0:7f7:e26e:bc60 with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-800036e5ef8mr695882439f.18.1720624961588; Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 09:22:30 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Improve language coherence for the behaviour of offsets and containers To: "Gina P. Banyard" Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: levi.morrison@datadoghq.com (Levi Morrison) > Everything considered, I still do not think changing the name of the appe= nd() method is a good idea, will it hurt adoption in the short term for som= e classes, yes, but I prefer this than having a large part of the ecosystem= needing to create an alias just for some weird cases. I don't fully understand the issue with aliases. Could you elaborate on that? Would calling the method instead of direct aliasing avoid whatever the issue is?