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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 21:33:56 +0200
To: "Ben Ramsey" <ben@benramsey.com>, "Saki Takamachi" <saki@sakiot.com>
Cc: "Barney Laurance" <barney@barneylaurance.uk>, internals@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Make the GMP class final
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From: rob@bottled.codes ("Rob Landers")

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On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, at 19:52, Rob Landers wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, at 19:31, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>> > On Jun 29, 2024, at 12:25, Saki Takamachi <saki@sakiot.com> wrote:
>> >=20
>> > Hi,
>> >=20
>> >> Sure, it=E2=80=99s allowed to change its mind, but if we bring thi=
s for a vote in two weeks, and then we vote a week later for the other (=
or even at the same time), I would see the results of those votes as con=
flicting viewpoints and not as the community changing its mind within th=
e span of a few weeks.
>> >=20
>> > I am pretty sure there is no chance that another RFC will start vot=
ing at the same time as this one (unless they ignore the discussion and =
start it forcefully).
>> >=20
>> > And even if they were to force a vote, it would have almost no chan=
ce of passing.
>> >=20
>> > Regards,
>> >=20
>> > Saki
>>=20
>>=20
>> Fair enough. I agree that we probably won=E2=80=99t find ourselves in=
 this hypothetical conflicting state.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Ben
>>=20
>=20
> I think it is extremely likely they'll be out for a vote at the exact =
same time. I literally just finished the implementation and example code=
. I'll probably be opening a PR in the morning (EU time) as well as upda=
ting the RFC with clearer examples, details for implementors, etc.
>=20
> My RFC includes a vote that this RFC encompasses, so it seems like a p=
issing match just for the sake of pissing.
>=20
> =E2=80=94 Rob

Actually, please keep this RFC. Apologies for my earlier remarks.

=E2=80=94 Rob
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<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type=3D"text/css">
p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>On Sat, Ju=
n 29, 2024, at 19:52, Rob Landers wrote:<br></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te" id=3D"qt" style=3D""><div>On Sat, Jun 29, 2024, at 19:31, Ben Ramsey=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"qt-qt" style=3D""><div>=
&gt; On Jun 29, 2024, at 12:25, Saki Takamachi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sak=
i@sakiot.com">saki@sakiot.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div>&gt;&nbsp;<br=
></div><div>&gt; Hi,<br></div><div>&gt;&nbsp;<br></div><div>&gt;&gt; Sur=
e, it=E2=80=99s allowed to change its mind, but if we bring this for a v=
ote in two weeks, and then we vote a week later for the other (or even a=
t the same time), I would see the results of those votes as conflicting =
viewpoints and not as the community changing its mind within the span of=
 a few weeks.<br></div><div>&gt;&nbsp;<br></div><div>&gt; I am pretty su=
re there is no chance that another RFC will start voting at the same tim=
e as this one (unless they ignore the discussion and start it forcefully=
).<br></div><div>&gt;&nbsp;<br></div><div>&gt; And even if they were to =
force a vote, it would have almost no chance of passing.<br></div><div>&=
gt;&nbsp;<br></div><div>&gt; Regards,<br></div><div>&gt;&nbsp;<br></div>=
<div>&gt; Saki<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Fair enough. =
I agree that we probably won=E2=80=99t find ourselves in this hypothetic=
al conflicting state.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div=
>Ben<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think it=
 is extremely likely they'll be out for a vote at the exact same time. I=
 literally just finished the implementation and example code. I'll proba=
bly be opening a PR in the morning (EU time) as well as updating the RFC=
 with clearer examples, details for implementors, etc.<br></div><div><br=
></div><div>My RFC includes a vote that this RFC encompasses, so it seem=
s like a pissing match just for the sake of pissing.<br></div><div><br><=
/div><div id=3D"qt-sig121229152">=E2=80=94 Rob<br></div></blockquote><di=
v><br></div><div>Actually, please keep this RFC. Apologies for my earlie=
r remarks.</div><div><br></div><div id=3D"sig121229152">=E2=80=94 Rob<br=
></div></body></html>
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