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From: imsop.php@rwec.co.uk ("Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]")



On 29 June 2024 11:56:43 BST, Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity=2Enet> wrote:

>That list is just package-specific, nothing about syntax, data types, con=
trol structures, package management, etc=2E etc=2E

It includes fundamental design decisions like "what does a class name look=
 like", and "how are classes identified across boundaries"=2E If names aren=
't universal, what does ::class return? How does resolution work in a DI co=
ntainer? Etc etc etc=2E=20

I'm sure Go has answers to all those questions, but so does PHP, and I've =
not seen any convincing argument why we should throw it all away and start =
again=2E


>>  Rather than looking at languages which have done things completely dif=
ferently,=20
>=20
>There is nothing "completely" different about JavaScript, or Go for that =
matter=2E    All three of JS, Go, and PHP are descendants of C=2E

You have misread what I wrote=2E I didn't say *the languages* are differen=
t, I said *the decisions they have made around namespaces and packages* are=
 different=2E

There is no "genetic fallacy" or "gatekeeping" involved, I'm saying it wil=
l be easier to apply a design that shares some characteristics with what we=
 have, than to rewrite the language to fit a design which shares none=2E

The descriptions of the *design of packages* in JS and Go make me think th=
ey don't have enough in common with PHP to be easy to apply, so I'm suggest=
ing we look at other designs=2E

Rowan Tommins
[IMSoP]