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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Static class
To: Lynn <kjarli@gmail.com>
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From: lnearwaju@gmail.com (Lanre)

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On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 1:05=E2=80=AFAM Lynn <kjarli@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 2:48=E2=80=AFAM Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.ne=
t> wrote:
>
>> >> and inheritance is not meant for code reuse.
>>
>> Just because code reuse in inheritance can be problematic it does not
>> have to be in all-cases. Moderation in all things. I used that approach =
for
>> 10+ years and never once had any of the problems people claim about usin=
g
>> inheritance for code reuse. This was likely because my needs were
>> constrained by the use-case and by nature did not grow out of control wi=
th
>> complexity.
>>
>
> My experience is the opposite. There are subtle bugs I keep running into
> with static function and properties causing unexpected behavior. I'm not
> against having static classes open by default for the sake of consistency=
,
> though my preference would be to avoid the headache altogether and just
> make them final by default so I won't ever have to deal with it. Would
> traits not solve the problem of horizontal reuse?
>


Sounds like a 'you' problem. Can you go into more details about said subtle
bugs? With examples if possible?

Lanre

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 1:05=E2=80=AF=
AM Lynn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kjarli@gmail.com">kjarli@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 2:48=E2=80=AFAM Mike Sch=
inkel &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mike@newclarity.net" target=3D"_blank">mike@new=
clarity.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex">
&gt;&gt; and inheritance is not meant for code reuse.<br>
<br>
Just because code reuse in inheritance can be problematic it does not have =
to be in all-cases. Moderation in all things. I used that approach for 10+ =
years and never once had any of the problems people claim about using inher=
itance for code reuse. This was likely because my needs were constrained by=
 the use-case and by nature did not grow out of control with complexity.<br=
></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My experience is the opposite. There are =
subtle bugs I keep running into with static function and properties causing=
 unexpected behavior. I&#39;m not against having static classes open by def=
ault for the=C2=A0sake of consistency, though my preference would be to avo=
id the headache altogether and just make them final by default so I won&#39=
;t ever have to deal with it. Would traits not solve the=C2=A0problem of ho=
rizontal=C2=A0reuse?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>Sounds like a &#39;you&#39; problem. Can you go into more detail=
s about said subtle bugs? With examples if possible?=C2=A0</div><div><br></=
div><div>Lanre</div></div></div>

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