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One of the primary reasons I was given by no voters on my operator overload RFC was that it was not useful enough to justify the complexity. Since then however we have had a steady stream of people on list presenting their use cases that have run into issues, and proposing hacks and workarounds. On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:25=E2=80=AFAM Rob Landers wr= ote: > > - should we revisit operator overloading instead of me hacking my way int= o > it? > The primary reason I decided not to revisit the RFC with changes or updates was that the conversations I had with voters led me to believe that this was fundamentally unproductive to pursue. I would be happy to bring it again if that changes, but I will not get involved in working on this feature again unless I'm convinced the sentiment of voters has changed, or at least has become changeable. Jordan --00000000000068a9ca061bcedcff Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am interested to see what people say to this. One o= f the primary reasons I was given by no voters on my operator overload RFC = was that it was not useful enough to justify the complexity. Since then how= ever we have had a steady stream of people on list presenting their use cas= es that have run into issues, and proposing hacks and workarounds.

On We= d, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:25=E2=80=AFAM Rob Landers <rob@bottled.codes> w= rote:

- should we revisit operat= or overloading instead of me hacking my way into it?

The primary reason I decided not to revisit the= RFC with changes or updates was that the conversations I had with voters l= ed me to believe that this was fundamentally unproductive to pursue. I woul= d be happy to bring it again if that changes, but I will not get involved i= n working on this feature again unless I'm convinced the sentiment of v= oters has changed, or at least has become changeable.

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