Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:123869 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 463131A009C for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:54:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1719410145; bh=WSa2RHa8RHEcKKmWCTtar8ZDk2EA6vw0qR85hr9Nurc=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=YzGrOc4xeG8cMesQPrxtYCOPokAj6L3s4Dp1hPCH42FIlntdVDg3TFJqeiblrTJ1p TcD+B1STvWxmoo2S4zUNubF8Hx2b77WLJb5yoSCNK+BzklF1IBoeeZga9nSDtVG/2N J/Rgd8kN5vw3f7op1MD9UPs7f/UWVe3CHuc+bJH4VPX+LV6XkEbyltfbjJu1LcInQU iicU8zYdSJ5zSaJJWeD+K4Sm4C3W3VXulFmyLyDD/ghApQeu4Ny3nFu+fchhmYTl6D DDHCX22sfwDLOgDlk4wEEi5prmyFAa4twD9ekx2kE3xpOL6CVaX4LYHGvQy6hMFh9H zjQAbwocRnq5g== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060B31805EE for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:55:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SCC_BODY_URI_ONLY,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f179.google.com (mail-lj1-f179.google.com [209.85.208.179]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lj1-f179.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ebe40673e8so74726991fa.3 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 06:54:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1719410062; x=1720014862; darn=lists.php.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WSa2RHa8RHEcKKmWCTtar8ZDk2EA6vw0qR85hr9Nurc=; b=TAVa3OSL/aChA5/3+0NExikC02mCnhJsrX5HKqi88o4ONCN3bKD9vleKXE5PzR+X2r alvJL6M/BfFrTrCeGppMuuMpjqRhsiHjAMUM0oOCfJwQTPfycpVFiCuLZk6RCrXe135T Lflm2JvZZOTyszyQMGAxJTwKmUkEJ5KURogoZt42I3R0lGUtgyGPzF+9ahYcxyJ2sr4Y iCew3JnC97u4WEtLKaKBf+j49k5m9R4+n+1DSNFcykUBJJmjvpaRdsENDAofmmKswoei XCkoF+M6ylUJbA8CgKFRbGbnPrBSDucfUCEp/vXmla/fr6eCqfmU67GKRryXZ4BDASPD c/Ug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1719410062; x=1720014862; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=WSa2RHa8RHEcKKmWCTtar8ZDk2EA6vw0qR85hr9Nurc=; b=RwNdul9RWVGBzYKgtrK1ZFnwbsHxMpdq/A6zaor2R/adeScGwDkwFR/1nMtNFr7GXU ETbmL0a6SNGzUTSh4LOEvBYRk0Xjrz7ngMsfOBhpDAhvvViouNOcAszcEB6XIgud1+rl mzCWysaSmXn3WhJWxGVz69jgRYHT6YLFAJlMLHjR+7gUnaq89KEmaDcmuqKOT+C3tYrP 3OoPITjw6AhSCe8LG0l7PMnih28IyelmtXWpYHTVafWa7SomO/7d2EOc8Z9JjavdX33T fMFJjMCgJ8/asGx5f2i71I2/eV5JF5yYYJxUdajxiORt/wspW8eUS3kbOLepMFzds6o9 MPew== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzPq5KFGQSRD3VCTtlH/ADu89Av/J4LYMb2OjBq70W8lHP5ukGe xzx1xer3mYlVnT+TAF8yQg6KNgwcHjPFsYaRnvsTXv+GXJtxuRRaFIXXBFaLnB2LgYYZ3QkZoTP eI0f4xmnOtkj/R/TGAecgpXnfJ1PFXlOBZd4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE57bLJIwtUj463WocfzENDV838iOIHVkvB/Wpj4/bRr4oolUcFk/aDdIAb5OjG9ZLi6FDUvyVA4R9EMDomYfs= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:7e0f:0:b0:2ec:56b9:259f with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ec5b3e24d7mr58849211fa.48.1719410062182; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 06:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:54:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.4 To: "Gina P. Banyard" Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" From: tekiela246@gmail.com (Kamil Tekiela) I think the "Deprecate passing E_USER_ERROR to trigger_error()" should be better explained. Why is using this constant a problem? There is a link to another RFC, but I can't see an explanation as to why E_USER_ERROR suffers the same problem as fatal errors do. From an average Joe's perspective, it looks fine and does the job https://3v4l.org/e97TO