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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 19:12:52 -0600
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Asymmetric Visibility, v2
To: Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>
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From: lnearwaju@gmail.com (Lanre)

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Why invest time in crafting yet another pull request or RFC when it's
glaringly obvious that you guys have no clue what you're doing? First,
there's the questionable decision to implement JIT in 8.0, followed by the
introduction of an entirely new library (IR) to a language that's
predominantly request-based, boasting nothing more than a rudimentary AST,
plagued with inconsistencies, clinging to CGI, and practically useless
without a framework. And now, after greenlighting a dubious property hooks
RFC, the same individuals are embroiled in a debate over Asymmetric
Visibility? If you can't think up ways to make the engine "more rubust and
sturdy" as a paid member of the foundation then maybe it is also time to
start reconsidering my donations.

On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wro=
te:

> On 10 June 2024 21:17:38 BST, Lanre <lnearwaju@gmail.com> wrote:
> >You guys are killing PHP. There is a lot of work to be done on the engin=
e
> >to modernize it and make it more robust and sturdy. Shit like this just
> >adds more complexity to PHP in the name of convenience. I think this is =
my
> >cue to explore other languages for handling requests
>
>
> Please moderate your language.
>
> Posts like this do nothing except a higher chance for people to ignore
> you, when you've actual points to make, such as credible suggestions as t=
o
> how to make PHP "more rubust and sturdy".
>
> Looking forwards to your RFCs and patches.
>
> cheers
> Derick
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Why invest time in crafting yet another pull request =
or RFC when it&#39;s glaringly obvious that you guys have no clue what you&=
#39;re doing? First, there&#39;s the questionable decision to implement JIT=
 in 8.0, followed by the introduction of an entirely new library (IR) to a =
language that&#39;s predominantly request-based, boasting nothing more than=
 a rudimentary AST, plagued with inconsistencies, clinging to CGI, and prac=
tically useless without a framework. And now, after greenlighting a dubious=
 property hooks RFC, the same individuals are embroiled in a debate over As=
ymmetric Visibility? If you can&#39;t think up ways to make the engine &quo=
t;more rubust and sturdy&quot; as a paid member of the foundation then mayb=
e it is also time to start reconsidering my donations.<br></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 10, 2=
024 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Derick Rethans &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:derick@php.net"=
 target=3D"_blank">derick@php.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 10 June 2024 21:17:38 BST, Lanre &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:lnearwaju@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lnearwaju@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;You guys are killing PHP. There is a lot of work to be done on the engi=
ne<br>
&gt;to modernize it and make it more robust and sturdy. Shit like this just=
<br>
&gt;adds more complexity to PHP in the name of convenience. I think this is=
 my<br>
&gt;cue to explore other languages for handling requests<br>
<br>
<br>
Please moderate your language.<br>
<br>
Posts like this do nothing except a higher chance for people to ignore you,=
 when you&#39;ve actual points to make, such as credible suggestions as to =
how to make PHP &quot;more rubust and sturdy&quot;.<br>
<br>
Looking forwards to your RFCs and patches.<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
Derick<br>
</blockquote></div>
</div>

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