Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:123572 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 361A61A009C for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 21:39:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1718055659; bh=bEkme0kKizwwjv9yZ7aXfiT0TNTvfY4zdL9vYKF4GZQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=jSPMMqDszxJ7oonPfLSVV0E7eQ5vLiJWTFdFlhnacuBgIgmvAnu0qZnUmlSxASjBj orSVBd2jL5qArNL95N06JAhJl0uaID6GZxp8RrvLKpvVmLAHwtQBQYkYONW+Vvfd50 Ac9AQ+Uf2u5XLL9W6I/+q6XNOBE/Q28ohOB4HnWacZ8VBrDlQ6vCWJbTzCh75vw1VC nClDpxaviSGmF8Efi/SR7v1QdzvEkTXa2zGpTX1xrz2uQLQJ9hGrza9t0TKK7oOYn/ RkS2y91ePLKcK0gpMw7UHfJkaxgAMaFoHBqaet+8jWvJEHdJo1o1trqpXf7I34NVBH T8eWmc5dzxSvQ== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE0F180050 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 21:40:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 21:40:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1718055588; bh=bEkme0kKizwwjv9yZ7aXfiT0TNTvfY4zdL9vYKF4GZQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=i5cJPFfijWHq1+Y14rfxuUxEYi/qKusrgX3xvmjSQEAqqDwuXWmpmzXySX0r+Jsd2 003KKncCr73ysIXYOP/CmzLS7QlCaUZ9uAB+14Hqd4cS+Y6JYlKFkYBSDE1zVk+fD2 6vo0oXxCrBCMVmBubMOPx6Mny3wht3luB3z4g27i6X3sCagwqDpWPR1+AS+sM94vNx es1Nb5fnucot8xS/B+nTdhOAc2xw2YRBbWrPpOEP0qvO/RlCeztHJdAQtvHx/Xpvj4 xE/E5JbCUDgVuChvHjFgP3VLmX1JWu41mqNm0Oz1ZN7UQpf6WVuMwORJ0PZvrAE6RY 9b7mrNwfoQm5w== Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host81-158-77-57.range81-158.btcentralplus.com [81.158.77.57]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C97010C559; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:39:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:39:47 +0100 To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Asymmetric Visibility, v2 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <0a6a61cd-f203-4dea-a7f8-97e6b885c52d@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <7EED71A8-C126-4CA5-A5F4-A6284999B3F2@php.net> Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On 10 June 2024 21:17:38 BST, Lanre wrote: >You guys are killing PHP=2E There is a lot of work to be done on the engi= ne >to modernize it and make it more robust and sturdy=2E Shit like this just >adds more complexity to PHP in the name of convenience=2E I think this is= my >cue to explore other languages for handling requests Please moderate your language=2E Posts like this do nothing except a higher chance for people to ignore you= , when you've actual points to make, such as credible suggestions as to how= to make PHP "more rubust and sturdy"=2E Looking forwards to your RFCs and patches=2E cheers Derick