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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Asymmetric Visibility, v2
To: Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com>
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On Wed, May 29, 2024, 2:16=E2=80=AFPM Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.co=
m> wrote:

> As promised, Ilija and I offer this revised version of asymmetric
> visibility.
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/asymmetric-visibility-v2
>
> It's still essentially the same as last year's version, but with a few
> adjustments and changes:
>
> * readonly properties are now supported in a logical fashion.
> * We've brought back the abbreviated form, as public-read, something else
> set is the most common use case.
> * The section on magic methods has been greatly simplified.  The
> implementation itself hasn't changed, but the explanation is a lot less
> confusing now.
> * We've explained how aviz interacts with hooks (they don't, really) and
> with interface properties (in the obvious way), which didn't exist at the
> time of the last draft.
> * We've added a section with examples of how aviz is a concrete
> improvement, even in a world with readonly and hooks.
> * We've added a section discussing why the prefix-style syntax was chosen=
.
>
> *dons flame retardant suit*
>
> --
>   Larry Garfield
>   larry@garfieldtech.com


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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 29, 2024, 2:16=E2=80=AFPM Larry Garfield &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:larry@garfieldtech.com">larry@garfieldtech.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As promised, Ilija and I offer =
this revised version of asymmetric visibility.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/asymmetric-visibility-v2" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.php.net/rfc/asymmetric-visi=
bility-v2</a><br>
<br>
It&#39;s still essentially the same as last year&#39;s version, but with a =
few adjustments and changes:<br>
<br>
* readonly properties are now supported in a logical fashion.<br>
* We&#39;ve brought back the abbreviated form, as public-read, something el=
se set is the most common use case.<br>
* The section on magic methods has been greatly simplified.=C2=A0 The imple=
mentation itself hasn&#39;t changed, but the explanation is a lot less conf=
using now.<br>
* We&#39;ve explained how aviz interacts with hooks (they don&#39;t, really=
) and with interface properties (in the obvious way), which didn&#39;t exis=
t at the time of the last draft.<br>
* We&#39;ve added a section with examples of how aviz is a concrete improve=
ment, even in a world with readonly and hooks.<br>
* We&#39;ve added a section discussing why the prefix-style syntax was chos=
en.<br>
<br>
*dons flame retardant suit*<br>
<br>
-- <br>
=C2=A0 Larry Garfield<br>
=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:larry@garfieldtech.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">larry@garfieldtech.com</a></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sending an email to quickly enable a new m=
ailing list subscriber to engage in the conversation.</div></div>

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