Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:123557 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C99C1A009C for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 00:50:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1717807898; bh=vWsitHrkd5RraS9TzPphEP0Nsw0Mlbn0IY/bxegND5U=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:From; b=A3dFXvHTBRV2WDAPfbHk4WEb2RDfbtmaqwrgIS9A79vkaj2q6hhjGyOFo8b2eFE3u vOAsTGE2O35NnaS3zTH1HpA7390rURrOsurRsdF2kyx2NkSfDxiFHK7e5Ho2j10Y45 920JEZnP31JH3XVgu0ThWiDeaIC4gbxmQStzcm+XeOKb3l8CZZt7R6HLVa3PKV0y8M AyQ4sXSbj7Ifuuy24kUt7tq0Xx2QJ9IuDYwAkPzEryYuJ7W/A0Qz51I9+rCyxmJorA tf2d4Yz2/XVh8gqNkfvbAhF5EMlIPRmD1stT4y2scz4WGWU85Ey/C56MHDK3TeA9Nf XLRq/whHhKM9w== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527121806AE for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 00:51:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-vk1-f177.google.com (mail-vk1-f177.google.com [209.85.221.177]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 00:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk1-f177.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-4eb18095222so930058e0c.2 for ; Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:50:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1717807830; x=1718412630; darn=lists.php.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=oDs7/yegxo8AqkrzWJkOr0h1jMp9s5N3tXs863LWlJ8=; b=A4PAUDpYoC0Vd3OL0BVbCT26WvMoO0DdBRLzlQUelrRVtX/yyXC0pareDWqMFo73IR vEb4frwap0T4LLJ2ahls0Ffic+VbuldLLjN6F6+K4VzcZiJSvP6eWVteYMYlKhO0Asut KP8j9UfrlziDsh9wDcaA29RXoyNANCmG3ojgZsamCh2lg2f4ymwL0O0J4dSobCrm8ADo d2MCh9iWL9uIUnM/CUY/WEp99K39n//oeeIKtB9X6IMoDy8ViMR3et329ztBncZWEhnV tt7o2QNzunLNRbMtX5QYHTQbCoRn7wg8hx2aOINwjjdRyV2ZYZQM3IBkyBl5OyeZwi6O 8l3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1717807830; x=1718412630; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=oDs7/yegxo8AqkrzWJkOr0h1jMp9s5N3tXs863LWlJ8=; b=l7ibojhc5FqPKGKDKf3A1/f0z64QKmcJYrVR60eCh23PTBwyeN6+0nbmkuU/L3di5m am9nCdsyOU18/vqzHdHNVY9+164CeEKFMAiQI6CWd/czRsbKHL66jd+Xy81H0QRk6rAV B36bzJrfi3OTIEDbsKiuijkUkrymv1zbQEoraX4iAGI+tNB18V6PFpDKg7QeAv5M+kDe 0kxnIX6wgZG4vEh6S2nOd03MdtfCamg2RMZVeLnuRn2DjpQqGmVwt8BkEwZ7miUmlmEq 8VYcZfeZpI/lARVkKD6EdCKF92H+Dxx0UR3E6C6peArjr5PmqG6XNKJ1mHdO3gsT/QZU qyZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzLFhtVDM1y/pitQdGPbtWOw4qnGzKC7HfLWe3x+VZmWyfFuE6F SipvikxuQqlCadZobPJbF3ORyt3M95UevKu+ZcGFNA06d0S27tVQAJKuAIiIQPK3WDj3DED6Ja9 Iti6SKqAIAcHFW7qJgARrpImgRcmGdtsE X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG9vGHeCatpmrePx2gBn4V5bUhFaZtoeE9pfNHDFfdFVy9oKCcn5guA655r0b6BBsebiV5yAViWynPWYpvz9co= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:ed82:0:b0:4ea:edfb:8da6 with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-4eb562ab3f8mr3759598e0c.10.1717807829846; Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <534E0EB4-AC48-44A5-9AC0-B2D97151360A@getmailspring.com> In-Reply-To: <534E0EB4-AC48-44A5-9AC0-B2D97151360A@getmailspring.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 21:49:53 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC proposal : "new" keyword shorthand To: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007d92c9061a564d00" From: ericklima.comp@gmail.com (Erick de Azevedo Lima) --0000000000007d92c9061a564d00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Please, don't make PHP as unreadable as Perl. IMO It's two extra characters at worst and would be solved much more elegantly by removing the new keyword entirely. The new keyword is meaningful and everyone knows what's being done just by looking at it. Removing it would make the language less readable. But it's a BC so big that I don't think it can be done anyway. -- Erick --0000000000007d92c9061a564d00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Please, don't make PHP as u= nreadable as Perl. IMO It's two extra=20 characters at worst and would be solved much more elegantly by removing=20 the new=C2=A0 keyword entirely.

The n= ew keyword is meaningful and everyone knows what's being done just by l= ooking at it. Removing it would make the language less readable. But it'= ;s a BC so big that I don't think it can be done anyway.

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