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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 23:26:14 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [discussion] Correctly name the rounding mode and
 make it an Enum
To: "Gina P. Banyard" <internals@gpb.moe>
Cc: Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com>, php internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: jorg.sowa@gmail.com (Jorg Sowa)

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> It should also be noted that ceil/floor is very English specific
terminology that may not be immediately obvious to non-English speakers,
thus my preference for using some variation of towards positive/negative
infinity.

This statement is subjective in my opinion. For me, it's the contrary,
that's why I'm opposing introducing new terms to the PHP replacing ones
that already exist (ceil()/floor()). I don't have the data on such modes in
other programming languages, but I checked the data in Google Trends:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=round%20toward%20positive%20infinity,ceiling%20math,round%20positive%20infinity,towards%20positive%20infinity&hl=en

Far more people search for `ceiling` than `round toward positive infinity`
or `round positive infinity`. Of course, I may be wrong by choosing
incorrect search phrases, but it's also good to see some data/examples that
changing this in PHP is for the better.

> by *removing* the newly introduced constant and instead exposing the
functionality *only* via the new Enum.

It brings inconsistency that some modes are accessible by ints and enums
and others only by enums. If there is no deprecation plan yet I am not sure
this is the right approach.

Kind regards,
Jorg

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>&gt; It should also be noted that=
 ceil/floor is very English specific=20
terminology that may not be immediately obvious to non-English speakers,
 thus my preference for using some variation of towards=20
positive/negative infinity.<br><br></div>This statement is subjective in my=
 opinion. For me, it&#39;s the contrary, that&#39;s why I&#39;m opposing in=
troducing new terms to the PHP replacing ones that already exist (ceil()/fl=
oor()). I don&#39;t have the data on such modes in other programming langua=
ges, but I checked the data in Google Trends:<br><a href=3D"https://trends.=
google.com/trends/explore?q=3Dround%20toward%20positive%20infinity,ceiling%=
20math,round%20positive%20infinity,towards%20positive%20infinity&amp;hl=3De=
n">https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=3Dround%20toward%20positive%2=
0infinity,ceiling%20math,round%20positive%20infinity,towards%20positive%20i=
nfinity&amp;hl=3Den</a><br><br></div>Far more people search for `ceiling` t=
han `round toward positive infinity` or `round positive infinity`. Of cours=
e, I may be wrong by choosing incorrect search phrases, but it&#39;s also g=
ood to see some data/examples that changing this in PHP is for the better.<=
br><br>&gt; by *removing* the newly introduced constant and instead exposin=
g the functionality *only* via the new Enum.<br><br></div>It brings inconsi=
stency that some modes are accessible by ints and enums and others only by =
enums. If there is no deprecation plan yet I am not sure this is the right =
approach.<br><br></div>Kind regards,<br></div>Jorg<br></div>

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