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Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 09:39:15 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Vote] #[\Deprecated] attribute
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From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)

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Hey Benjamin,

I voted against it:

* I very much like having reflection methods that work on internal symbols
relying on `#[\Deprecated]`. I can rely on these in my static analysis
tooling, test suites, decorators, dependency injection tools, etc.
* I am still disagree with abusing global runtime effects (`E_DEPRECATED` /
`E_USER_DEPRECATED`) to signal deprecations. Insert "PTSD Chihuaua" meme
here regarding PHP and library upgrades I had to work on over the last
decade. No: don't want. Don't add side-effects to otherwise functionally
pure code.

Marco Pivetta

https://mastodon.social/@ocramius

https://ocramius.github.io/


On Wed, 22 May 2024 at 09:23, Benjamin Au=C3=9Fenhofer <kontakt@beberlei.de=
>
wrote:

> The vote for the RFC #[\Deprecated] attribute is now open:
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecated_attribute
>
> Voting will close on Wednesday 5th June, 08:00 GMT.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hey Benjamin,</div><div><br></div><div>I voted agains=
t it:</div><div><br></div><div>* I very much like having reflection methods=
 that work on internal symbols relying on `#[\Deprecated]`. I can rely on t=
hese in my static analysis tooling, test suites, decorators, dependency inj=
ection tools, etc.<br></div><div>* I am still disagree with abusing global =
runtime effects (`E_DEPRECATED` / `E_USER_DEPRECATED`) to signal deprecatio=
ns. Insert &quot;PTSD Chihuaua&quot; meme here regarding PHP and library up=
grades I had to work on over the last decade. No: don&#39;t want. Don&#39;t=
 add side-effects to otherwise functionally pure code.<br></div><div><br></=
div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"=
gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Marco Pivetta <br><br><a href=3D"https://=
mastodon.social/@ocramius" target=3D"_blank">https://mastodon.social/@ocram=
ius</a><br><br><a href=3D"https://ocramius.github.io/" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://ocramius.github.io/</a><br></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 22 May=
 2024 at 09:23, Benjamin Au=C3=9Fenhofer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kontakt@bebe=
rlei.de" target=3D"_blank">kontakt@beberlei.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The vote for=
 the RFC #[\Deprecated] attribute=C2=A0is now open:<br><br><a href=3D"https=
://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecated_attribute" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.ph=
p.net/rfc/deprecated_attribute</a><br><br>Voting will close on Wednesday 5t=
h June, 08:00 GMT.<br></div>
</blockquote></div>

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