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I just thought of some ways to standardize this: 1 - Create an RFC to create an "uninitialized" construct/function to make this check; 2 - Ask Larry and Ilija to include an "is uninitialized" pattern into their wonderful Pattern Matching RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pattern-matching); 3 - Create a PSR to create this "Uninitialized" class and constant standard to PHP. I would go for option 2. Best regards, Erick --0000000000006fbab70618ba5f59 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> I am already using a solution like the one
> p= roposed by Robert: it works but it leaves some doubts since each project
> can have a different name for NotSet while it seems a general c= oncept of the language

Hi everyone.
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I just thought of some ways to standardize this:
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1 - Create an RFC to create an "uninitialized" cons= truct/function to make this check;
2 - Ask Larry and Ilija to inc= lude an "is uninitialized" pattern into their wonderful Pattern M= atching RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pattern-matching);
3 - C= reate a PSR to create this "Uninitialized" class and constant sta= ndard to PHP.

I would go for option 2.
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Best regards,
Erick
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