Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:123094 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B31A1A009C for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:05:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1712765163; bh=Zx0t5jWivheDIYshaodyLiHIZkZoYIQePpyuyjKoVdw=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=dgoX7N0MeVxd5LMbZgw0L/1IHUWqWAoYiBFLSrpPptkHtT7nojpXSWawzCkr6S24s uU+0cOQxv5PcnB0v2VVuDtz8+ARyR/Xrpq9GuwAoxX5XBLRY4ASChW709MJz4tfftY WgI9GRcsismbDbQWBHhWjzgXzfO0Gl4YfC8fNMG27wav+8XRK8DShqMWZsiGWa2+N6 /SONxdWbT0ML353D3T0HBkbESP6drNKWMualq8oh2/4ZdClaIdI8M3JHXOvcwYaDB3 P+97Or4rl5++0BxjWKwoyPfkOjqNdCVXCvZwro5kEXiQDObZWv3+S9VC7BMj0BBvsD 8et0hTTaWsmYA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA137180751 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:06:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail.sakiot.com (mail.sakiot.com [160.16.227.216]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 16:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [117.55.37.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sakiot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2AEA401D8; Thu, 11 Apr 2024 01:05:25 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sakiot.com; s=default; t=1712765125; bh=Zx0t5jWivheDIYshaodyLiHIZkZoYIQePpyuyjKoVdw=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=A/5zhOYOhGSdUMrq4Oe5BXWLGejtH+BrEiZPa8n5rRqPWIXmIloq/b9tTrHQf5R2F M/6ngB/RIHnijD4P/Ai1++I6ihiL00UZk8scUYrvj0b+F12Btpu/2nh5tgRtYnaHfS kEjBcWUqtWPZDcwvb2+YtPCFJ3f5UTacbVOCXmAY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6.1.1\)) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Vote announcement] Property hooks In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 01:05:12 +0900 Cc: Erick de Azevedo Lima , Robert Landers , internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <6EB35A64-D926-447B-8368-B1FAB4578E4D@sakiot.com> References: <66154AA0.1040905@adviesenzo.nl> <66160A1D.4060409@adviesenzo.nl> To: autaut03@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6.1.1) From: saki@sakiot.com (Saki Takamachi) Hi, > To an outsider, it looks wild when feedback starts coming in right = before the vote starts. What's even more startling is that there are = people with voting rights who have never participated in the discussion = at all, yet have a right to wordlessly affect the vote's outcome. I = sincerely hope Ilija and Larry's work don't go to waste here. I was also one of those who did not speak out because I was in favor of = this RFC. The syntax is new and may look unfamiliar, but people should soon get = used to it. Also, I personally don't think the functionality of property = hooks is complicated. Since this is a new feature, the amount of = information may be a little large during initial learning, but the = feature itself is not that complicated. Regards, Saki=