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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:56:01 +0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Vote announcement] Property hooks
To: Erick de Azevedo Lima <ericklima.comp@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Landers <landers.robert@gmail.com>, internals@lists.php.net
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From: autaut03@gmail.com (Alex Wells)

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 4:01=E2=80=AFPM Erick de Azevedo Lima <
ericklima.comp@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe if such a feedback was given before and it was decided to go for a
> trimmed version of the feature, maybe Ilija/Larry could have had less wor=
k
> to implement and test all the variantes they've done. I think if a person
> has such numerous concerns, it should be exposed ASAP even if your though=
ts
> are not totally clear. If you had a chat directly with Ilija/Larry, they
> would be aware of such concerns and would expend efforts to address these
> concerns.
>

To an outsider, it looks wild when feedback starts coming in right before
the vote starts. What's even more startling is that there are people with
voting rights who have never participated in the discussion at all, yet
have a right to wordlessly affect the vote's outcome. I sincerely hope
Ilija and Larry's work don't go to waste here.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 4:01=E2=80=AFPM E=
rick de Azevedo Lima &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ericklima.comp@gmail.com">erickl=
ima.comp@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div>M=
aybe if such a feedback was given before and it was decided to go for a tri=
mmed version of the feature, maybe Ilija/Larry could have had less work to =
implement and test all the variantes they&#39;ve done. I think if a person =
has such numerous concerns, it should be exposed ASAP even if your thoughts=
 are not totally clear. If you had a chat directly with Ilija/Larry, they w=
ould be aware of such concerns and would expend efforts to address these co=
ncerns.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>To an outsider, it look=
s wild when feedback starts coming in right before the vote starts. What=
9;s even more startling is that there are people with voting rights who hav=
e never participated in the discussion at all, yet have a right to wordless=
ly affect the vote&#39;s outcome. I sincerely hope Ilija and Larry&#39;s wo=
rk don&#39;t go to waste here.</div></div></div>

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