Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122600 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FF421AD8F6 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 04:50:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1710046238; bh=VsuXTkXZm5Py77wxsmyzl5x0M/7Kz95HJLl4epJypGM=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:Cc:From; b=TddStMYaP7qQpdOWKGV9LZXL4mJyxsXJHigSZ4AWRyyyVwBVnBhvJCGMkOtKxDNr5 Mf9QQ1YZto7HT3i02OnMTacsXQk3vk2RkIrry4PlDojFeUzsmmFWCZV8I50FJSETrU FZFmbsrvhK2O4ItXfVkzhjcCnJhZQlJdZSq+BVFVMMIpXNa+Fqg2RBh/F93Te9gI9B hkyhKAA54aM8+rdYtXdYHHoJrDBeY9KPu1Fg5KCGLIa8K+2hI3SKcOAYLgABmMWdq6 vP9hBBZ0GVIpZG9fQ+vH2n5R0cDmzXG6roOcPw+3kQN9bAKciyyA60xIas0NvpENef /moV+4k+PMSyg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3095E180061 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 04:50:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,FREEMAIL_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qv1-f45.google.com (mail-qv1-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 04:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qv1-f45.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-690cae2d7a2so2668876d6.1 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 20:50:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1710046221; x=1710651021; darn=lists.php.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=6HBED8vj5TvQqk7Z3C7PLNT8QTN3rwGULSd1bOqRjp0=; b=JA06Oy5tmcmm3xfrL8yFkRqKjD+5E8m9h/B83j6lDQOshOfpmB02Ggkuv07WMeMAVr 9NlBVZjUXbLMnPYUdigCWkBNmWcgu7vFEcstSpN5pZHvkOdsm9NN4DZ41lJGwtKuXQmx S4p/zbZqItC3RxGvU4Ui3IitNT3U7LmQbg2vuLKGn9HM7r+18E8DuJLkrQlhLvX9oazz BucKzTGTBVcSxCt4qfzmp9EYqkdfkCQ3xGp8uxLABl/402b10A6uRVOCqwqJnpS4hV9M 0VOgctjWu7A//KQRShPbu3YGlphzsAobiBhjkIUhbveaek/k8Bba5Pl3HdoAFwjbEXMw IHBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1710046221; x=1710651021; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6HBED8vj5TvQqk7Z3C7PLNT8QTN3rwGULSd1bOqRjp0=; b=Zui8HOZgFVzrTTLiGXggHRTq5wCtwksov+0R+rG4pt51mFmuwrc0zD1OgfR9AdQtKj 5XIpV8yX1rjJrMZgpQ+YiaVNDPs5sLWkHpY8cVEZ3wUDQ5DhrhU/5s6lo3lrJgD9Zvhz m25udNTj58t0r4EF7zAZR4BQRGvPhNUeEzxiiEXvwQBDzTI/i74Z105C+70EyjmQj8aJ 19JrY9V29KE1wFkJasXwHGYzNcrO9fL76ocaKZCl+xIJwZWZfXrSmOEQAclPoTNdDnDJ eaY32XxtyOB+204hjP+2S4rNJjMsvC0D3+G+V8CLRMkTX09luLgF3a9GcaLxwSyx3SZG eoLw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx3t7sLrFM40G1+4osQrF9qmv7glB2LgbNQ5XQIYx5IKHuhvX2a Y3DwzVqyeM9DK8tbJKE5vlLwgYBZeNj5WYttluxKArixPHLw+lNjpsctz/XcyzvvK6NjosU4e/b QIKqHNwxPaXq9atrXduZhMaiibH2vndV0gAk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHZ+KfEeg8Q0Fj7oh58klsfi9c5ojT7pkczxm/moodSGSks1Mwdzsg573ge6apuEnhcV14SkJ+PnJgTb37v3Aw= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:ec91:0:b0:690:95fa:d78d with SMTP id u17-20020a0cec91000000b0069095fad78dmr3976845qvo.36.1710046221460; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 20:50:21 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7d05d51f-f301-4d62-b1c0-83e6a2e0632e@bastelstu.be> <98641418-c74d-4d2c-8045-f0db95673ae2@app.fastmail.com> <13d75473-835e-4a44-a15e-9dc14dac106c@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <13d75473-835e-4a44-a15e-9dc14dac106c@app.fastmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 05:49:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] int|float for sleep? sleep(0.1) => sleep 0.1 seconds Cc: php internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: weirdan@gmail.com (Bruce Weirdan) On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 2:38=E2=80=AFAM Jim Winstead wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 9, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Bruce Weirdan wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 9, 2024, 20:46 Jim Winstead wrote: > >> If the adherence to semantic versioning is meant to be strict, > > > > PHP doesn't follow semver and never had. > > Okay, strike that and replace it with "adherence to the documented releas= e process" which says that backward compatibility can only be broken in a r= elease where the first digit in the version number is incremented. Which is effectively semver, so... see above. It's not that semver (or that documented release process) is bad or unsuitable. It's just that particular part about BC guarantees hasn't been followed for at least a decade now (see https://www.php.net/manual/en/migration83.php and preceding Migrating from ... documents). > It's been over three years since 8.0 was released, how long until any bac= kwards-incompatible changes are going to intentionally make it into another= release? Until the next minor release, which lately have been happening close to the end of a year. --=20 Best regards, Bruce Weirdan mailto:weirdan@gmai= l.com