Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122557 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42F6D1AD8F6 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 22:53:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1709592812; bh=4uNl3TgENOwvnzzuRFXEy8f4eCNu1UOOch2dWpqkd2M=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=iINj5/Osw1G8MK0QZd8vqZInLqKjkBn+GTd8l1AnThqY0xQymZ9tRs7roiLjJza3R YrGidCfFWU35XnkF7dhkRgXpMTDnysbB6QEgyozjoslSyHCsqkG9FzLwiBan6YRs2h b3jyuLYNyymOk0BX/xN8dt4Jj1Y/WQxT0tfkQRoa8T61Jy20EDjRdAoNVdXJ2sJMw4 7PkbWLGYGqSuweYPljWICMM/Zp1esyzQstzQBK6ZrLZxpnm3M1wVZQtWBSeFhgcDmq k0hUU0OFEXPPbbHqkQO7XdqC6QsCC4O2LLE4/H5Jj98ufejjvkckerufP5eRhy23QT WsUTEnQVGc6+Q== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795711806AB for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 22:53:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DMARC_MISSING, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_SOFTFAIL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 22:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [148.252.146.174]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB8AD10C573; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 22:53:16 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2024 22:53:15 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] is this thing on? User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <112488a9-aaa6-4d85-9056-a4581a3cda21@app.fastmail.com> <6339baea-5b09-4607-b7c6-9af0def81a91@bastelstu.be> <8e9b998a-b8a8-41a7-9d64-85a670a47574@daniil.it> Message-ID: Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On 4 March 2024 22:26:37 GMT, daniil@daniil=2Eit wrote: >> Has Microsoft made a commitment to support open source forever? I mean = MS owns Github, what ensures that it will stay free? > >This is a silly argument, if that were the case, maybe the VCS should mov= e back to a self-hosted instance too? The VSC part from github (hosting our code), can very easily be ported=2E = Issues, discussions etc can not=2E=20 >Jokes aside, if Microsoft suddenly decides to throw away or to charge for= github, one of their biggest assets after Windows and OpenAI, PHP would ha= ve bigger problems than RFCs being managed on the github issue tracker=2E With the ongoing enshittification of most of the Internet due to advertisi= ng and tracking, we'd be negligent not hosting and owning our own content (= including our issue tracker, but that ship has sailed now)=2E=20 Email has been around for half a century=2E Will things like Slack, Discor= d, and the like still be operational and allow access to our archives in an= other 25 years? I'm almost certain it won't be=2E=20 cheers=20 Derick=20