Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122554 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4DB31AD8F6 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:21:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1709580081; bh=3hSMfQ0KLRqlfDfSAGcqIz+wmId5bHzfWfJeGmfuSr4=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From; b=DoBnIbZk2f1cbMk/GE/2xeyGCRHO3VF1yu+4+OEQGv850aIgmzUkC1Mg2xX8TnMFj 6mve81JcT+2oB+JwbqDGFQyM+X9Ha6BJqmLN7ggm5jpBaFSCOWIbu2h9GzhQ7EETsa c4XWrsJguDuY4VVfJdof0/KiraICtVWu4RqJF/Wl6X+NLF8xSEikCpFtCjiyv398c/ BTlU2efpY5zJ0UeukQ1mVxZujp+JQNLttfXr/6eBe5gmjUx+EXQqiWW6aBn3ej7b7s 0/+zADYlpZSLnKqibInkDH05nfCvH7v4MR6QgoPZw/nn00idEnf6A6OhgCz6KOH6xW Wg7vUijjFnlsw== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB2A1805E9 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:21:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ARC_SIGNED,ARC_VALID,BAYES_20, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from sender3-of-o59.zoho.com (sender3-of-o59.zoho.com [136.143.184.59]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:21:15 +0000 (UTC) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1709580062; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=fUfzJTntGY6GiTQxbMk9WjNBAz+lAoEYz10XKLehKJ0MEa0wJg48Zo1IOXMwCNXWSGmq+R/5u8tU+A0QUoHZp16/plw9q3Oaippg2P+FsLFCHWS0svp0rcsyxLxpgJbe1fOcRSa+y5GLpnt9Cy5llZ7tpaNWV3XJl8iYC78Xbis= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1709580062; h=Content-Type:Date:Date:From:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:Subject:To:To:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc; bh=hWkwMY20WR+kr++Ny6cfjWF92QyFW72D9joqDNl/43w=; b=LvvVyLHmNK5+GYzr8zwjBOWCuSAY+nQyFdoJ/Qav3DAvcK11RhNji12HMhnhiPz/cpnp5WxSAhwRKa6oE9nnnfPyQiodzTSD1F6TNzcI6LOvhe5VzjaJ3oL0VsWLbt/9vcMTpT6Ks0xiVKcWNNex4fiJuJemFZqjtkEAWGMs4iQ= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=daniil.it; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=daniil@daniil.it; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1709580062; s=daniil; d=daniil.it; i=daniil@daniil.it; h=Date:Date:From:From:To:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc; bh=hWkwMY20WR+kr++Ny6cfjWF92QyFW72D9joqDNl/43w=; b=V3jnWit+4zOe0a7UCJbGMOFHCALsM819vZPVGdUdnJAjMC+9ix3Ng43ojaGFdV8J 8FqhdpOtjMC3mPf58PlDvv151qGf8VEelFEXDNejwLx/SNRbMVsC1P5OvVl0ucC8Oj8 fzBG/i/NxNRuWI/n24/wF6sYWTXD1AXbXM2a6cuI= Received: from dummy.faircode.eu (37.163.243.202 [37.163.243.202]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1709580060227291.79353400310913; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 11:21:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:20:57 +0100 (GMT+01:00) To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <8e9b998a-b8a8-41a7-9d64-85a670a47574@daniil.it> In-Reply-To: References: <112488a9-aaa6-4d85-9056-a4581a3cda21@app.fastmail.com> <6339baea-5b09-4607-b7c6-9af0def81a91@bastelstu.be> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] is this thing on? Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4_245737185.1709580057275" X-Correlation-ID: <8e9b998a-b8a8-41a7-9d64-85a670a47574@daniil.it> X-ZohoMailClient: External From: daniil@daniil.it ------=_Part_4_245737185.1709580057275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> Mailing lists are fine and PHP is not the only project using them. The >> Linux kernel successfully uses them, the HAProxy project does as well >> and so does Debian. >> >> Best regards >> Tim D=C3=BCsterhus > > Hi, Internals > > There are times when I explore archives (mbstring and character code > etc), so it's helpful to have something left in communication form. > Therefore a mailing list would be better for that. Modern programming languages like Rust and Go use exclusively github for in= ternals discussion and RFCs, and all conversations are easily accessible, s= earchable and indexed by Google, with a much better UX than mailing lists. Just my two cents, I still believe using mailing lists and an invite-only w= iki adds needless friction. Regards, Daniil Gentili. ------=_Part_4_245737185.1709580057275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> M= ailing lists are fine and PHP is not the only project using them. The
>> L= inux kernel successfully uses them, the HAProxy project does as well
>> a= nd so does Debian.
>>
>> B= est regards
>> T= im D=C3=BCsterhus
>
> Hi, I= nternals
>
> There= are times when I explore archives (mbstring and character code
> etc),= so it's helpful to have something left in communication form.
> There= fore a mailing list would be better for that.

Modern pro= gramming languages like Rust and Go use exclusively github for internals di= scussion and RFCs, and all conversations are easily accessible, searchable = and indexed by Google, with a much better UX than mailing lists.

Just my tw= o cents, I still believe using mailing lists and an invite-only wiki adds n= eedless friction.

Regards,
Daniil Gen= tili.
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