Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122505 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07C771AD8F6 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 19:45:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1708976720; bh=4VMLRL6Q3ap5sm2wkRMrhdNJeDp2S98CKhgQgpdpnw8=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=nl/FK399vg0rKC1Z6ibtrFsm25bwvYo0ouFIG4kaKk0YnJwAs6aMHxiiYUAcRFkhv oUBLhizC6a/12QRaXSXTpVIPU+jemfTHkqFhzIsDdlATLbjgj0/g6QMYSJesQ3D6on JbBgZOMthB7lUmlmiFLtuVT2dodEQiEnWDlCV03Zg4nClv8bXGlXTACOMDJMKq5e9h g4SaQxxSkgHk175DmUzzWjrNXs3WLADTFXxEQHvgz2NEkO/k1mTPqzXzATxZRRg0ws 9HrGV4DWJyi/WPCE3dH9f9/+ZvPptgu9RYqZwiF65BPv+CyMb64kofH0jp5q2WaMf1 Wu0hnrde5g+ng== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C85180075 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:45:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1708976708; bh=4+rmT0squ3eHOSQjQOeouflqAQ56wAzs3QR9DKJkqpE=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=HBg0YWHcXcg/HjEBe0tq1cpOhk2t9DOlzcwHIIMv3pnJTXZKziunJY6L9Jo/Wgdcd ZX4/RougwbkJkg6N4ZkRfIbzU19nCrhEK85Cf+72m+hjdjgjh1nP3V083KVS4QUgDp FXWs/9El89dOr6qNMYt79kruKuuuSh08I4opAvDhwIfItwTxEODLmbp02EK05McOB/ ETeBXYdKhLPA6eeuFLjzYtOMvX6Gt2Vfuy9b1g8Kw7Tte7ZKo+hdLir8ZSt99UdRsV SiswmSRT1mmSTHWSMPPy9N+4vyq4dF2kxTDxlmCmOiurGdp8EfyTorham8AcXnXjKO Q3ByXznNhBa/A== Message-ID: <6339baea-5b09-4607-b7c6-9af0def81a91@bastelstu.be> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 20:45:05 +0100 Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] is this thing on? To: Daniil Gentili , internals@lists.php.net References: <112488a9-aaa6-4d85-9056-a4581a3cda21@app.fastmail.com> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=) Hi On 2/26/24 10:56, Daniil Gentili wrote: > even ignoring all the deliverability issues, I don't think using a > mailing list is a good idea for a modern programming language, seeking And neither is GitHub Discussions. When I have the choice between GitHub Discussions and a mailing list, I'd take a mailing list all day, every day. See also this previous email of mine: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/120010 > exclusively github issues and pull request discussions, I believe that > the mailing list is nothing more than a redundant relic of the past. Mailing lists are fine and PHP is not the only project using them. The Linux kernel successfully uses them, the HAProxy project does as well and so does Debian. Best regards Tim Düsterhus