Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122495 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AFAE1AD8F6 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:25:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1708946725; bh=OjD5QSmoerzZO7VxFnS5QFSrxfk7R+DQomO4v32QCrs=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Rjwf9bOL/5T3KZp9Se7MxvntPuTffrCg9v67LrRHhjr+eRVtdooCliXhpwfYiZ3wG PYBw2vChMgB1XoJpwMlismU3DS1rGeEFFgqbtbgyNdQBVkRSDQsot8dnUt3qSWh8V/ w8eMmm7HDyjmj7sWrHh8QTe2Da4roMAtbnCkboK92eaPRbe7a8X/TdaQzKI3Gxj98t 02FHjROgP73oLAPFC66vGx4xxLa5UsPFWUn8lHga3RFvTCtWml/r7//7XRP3coEL8a i2GYYdE7Vz9dGFkO9FrD2zkFIF5n55tCVDAwzw3LJFfTd6qyGjRGflxHXovyI2+pSf HS8xZVhuIKSrg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4B3180394 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:25:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DMARC_MISSING, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_SOFTFAIL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 03:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [85.255.234.151]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B093B10C525; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:25:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:25:15 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net, "Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]" CC: Rob Landers Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] is this thing on? User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <17d50791-190d-4f74-9478-030a84ae9545@app.fastmail.com> References: <112488a9-aaa6-4d85-9056-a4581a3cda21@app.fastmail.com> <17d50791-190d-4f74-9478-030a84ae9545@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On 26 February 2024 11:03:05 GMT, "Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]" wrote: >On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, at 20:02, Rob Landers wrote: >> Before I get to the meat of this email, first of all, IMHO, anyone shou= ld be able to email the list, even if they are not a=20 >> member of the list=2E I've had to email ubuntu lists about bugs before = and I really have no desire to join those lists, but >> I was always able to just send the email to the list just fine=2E That's not true=2E There was a complex pre-auth system in use that you had= to do once (the "confirmed list")=2E=20 >The biggest problem with an open list is how to manage spam Exactly=2E See the results of that on the php-announce list which was open= for a few hours=2E=20 We can't make this an open list=2E=20 >Exactly the same way you subscribed, I believe: via the web form, or usin= g +unsubscribe in the to address=2E Correct=2E=20 cheers=20 Derick=20