Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122493 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AB411AD8F6 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:56:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1708941397; bh=9fwGEh+0hGzq7XokMJ/SkAsLlU8S/QYs5g1IGkLPjzc=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=hAMjaOJKsjaE6jymmVWMIPx+V04G6n96k2gbKHu666xSbf421e6CfZM5h8K7FyTaG EQhK1XkCxB5xrOCIX9iUDpkiXomTKPMjemIljWz+COcXEqdh5w2JIxAr9vLNnO2hkx aGXTOKEZCIUczons3KMauubslyFl2ema88jKorkSvAXPsSQyciJtTNHpFyImXyj22u y1bwZLwfmKN5zP8VjODtNPFhb/+I+pg1GC5G0LH735WIHtfqrsLW5Qzk9nbXF/rgtV QmUNVBqzLV8BQmJFTBBS0eYDwIMOl2C3Pn4b8x7AHWiDeVEDy1TTowz9rlGqQxwDBS WQTtPhFo85oEA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26DD180696 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:56:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ARC_SIGNED,ARC_VALID,BAYES_20, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from sender4-of-o52.zoho.com (sender4-of-o52.zoho.com [136.143.188.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 01:56:36 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1708941387; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=WPXmlI4KGFXOr8DEFi7pnefvX/6ndBHGYaaptdxWuxD2/xt7NNCNCABfVn172MqvF4DQZeH8N7HO1Zd8MIBsCWyAPq4RZq/uyKHgb7FHn0x1znNh9Oijk38HIBUcy8AvT6iLlO4mQGwYMmeaY0arT528U2yWP4R8LK7bdY3t1T8= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1708941387; h=Content-Type:Date:Date:From:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:Subject:To:To:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc; bh=VD+NI/I0rbT6E8pXJCm/IkH2wgpTnnzi1JzSHoWsSd0=; b=oEmhDy4u/5fq/gX6qQtWbwKb5HgO1ZLS8AJyjkBQhq35C/7/3ASilAs7DVHwAUqdKuyRXiBi0c1nEf7Js3W86uI0lKOsKYwOhNCyQup5elXNMdzK0jrSwaGKxo9AOnXqLBN1yt2oZ0iWrMEYNOFWrgYGOMf/8Lizj/+wz8yh4dc= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=daniil.it; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=daniil@daniil.it; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1708941387; s=daniil; d=daniil.it; i=daniil@daniil.it; h=Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:Subject:To:To:References:From:From:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc; bh=VD+NI/I0rbT6E8pXJCm/IkH2wgpTnnzi1JzSHoWsSd0=; b=JzhSs3hGWmf9YwMbUTsDsGiUB4BkorcljgZhOaaMqy6L1aOGq9JOzSuPH1ln3YHU UoENc+hOK1sAv9QYoGScw0uUViIGrvdYf88mA/xmXtKqRBN+X5i3EgpyjlWG+yaPcXn aJ2GxQy0AqxckMAID+YA7ltjykoAkCbgu4cfja8k= Received: from [IPV6:2a0e:97c0:38f:0:e6a8:dfff:fee8:b020] (as198747.daniil.it [128.116.205.77]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1708941385816826.954164680281; Mon, 26 Feb 2024 01:56:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------qk3VsJwdH0gzz4qFN6JJrRu9" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 10:56:23 +0100 Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] is this thing on? To: internals@lists.php.net References: <112488a9-aaa6-4d85-9056-a4581a3cda21@app.fastmail.com> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <112488a9-aaa6-4d85-9056-a4581a3cda21@app.fastmail.com> X-ZohoMailClient: External From: daniil@daniil.it (Daniil Gentili) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------qk3VsJwdH0gzz4qFN6JJrRu9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > gmail is failing to send emails to the list (hence why it has probably > been a bit quite around here). Here is the error: +1, personally I would just switch to github issues and discussions, even ignoring all the deliverability issues, I don't think using a mailing list is a good idea for a modern programming language, seeking new contributors and new ideas in 2024. VCS was already moved to github after the recent hack of the php VCS, a lot of technical internals-related discussion is already using exclusively github issues and pull request discussions, I believe that the mailing list is nothing more than a redundant relic of the past. Regards, Daniil Gentili --------------qk3VsJwdH0gzz4qFN6JJrRu9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

gmail is failing to send emails to the list (hence why it has probably been a bit quite around here). Here is the error:
+1, personally I would just switch to github issues and discussions, even ignoring all the deliverability issues, I don't think using a mailing list is a good idea for a modern programming language, seeking new contributors and new ideas in 2024.

VCS was already moved to github after the recent hack of the php VCS, a lot of technical internals-related discussion is already using exclusively github issues and pull request discussions, I believe that the mailing list is nothing more than a redundant relic of the past.

Regards,
Daniil Gentili

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