Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122471 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF8C21ADA71 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:54:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1708628055; bh=TdWSpkbvF08cPUKMszbPMBYP8qa47KDBujs0DPy3m3I=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=eMkXR6SV1JBlyatsL3ySQBN6yLrkF6kYuq/0tl64a/qe19qYu8KO4lhlDxhETdVf7 5om606HwxjquF20a7dMoRomJP1BKY8BEahDgH+RQ4AzqwyB6NOkrxNQ3wpQIjQUF2G MKiNqxv/IdSqsYqSDPSAD7YumlG1REu8OYdK/PmpSScstQS24OXjYExonRPQudvjzF b44Ale45QySlJZGQNu1fkEhDvCy6GGXRQRWT9TdJZvXk7tuXVW8oTkj3Jm1BP6bO+1 +JQGr8CegO4o50mwQ4JwjKl9Nlkd2cav3rdkl41kKj8Ui4iOQOC18QXxa5/OS7M5p4 746eVrn1kEQpw== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357A818083E for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:54:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DMARC_MISSING, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mint.phcomp.co.uk (freshmint.phcomp.co.uk [78.32.209.33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 10:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from addw by mint.phcomp.co.uk with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1rdECn-00DLeQ-0r for internals@lists.php.net; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:54:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:54:01 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What's up with emails? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5a47419d-3d0f-4e29-84da-8d2b7dc986e1@bastelstu.be> Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5a47419d-3d0f-4e29-84da-8d2b7dc986e1@bastelstu.be> Organization: Parliament Hill Computers Ltd From: addw@phcomp.co.uk (Alain D D Williams) On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 07:45:41PM +0100, Tim Düsterhus wrote: > Hi > > On 2/22/24 16:29, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > • SPF for lists.php.net is "v=spf1 a mx a:osu1php.osuosl.org. ip4:45.112.84.5 ip6:2a02:cb43:8000::1102" > > Change to "v=spf1 a mx -all" > > > > •• If you make the MX change that I suggest then the > > following are redundant: ip4:45.112.84.5 ip6:2a02:cb43:8000::1102 > > I disagree with that. An MX is the receiver for inbound mail. It does not > follow that emails are sent out via the MX. Removing the explicit listing of > the IP addresses will just cause accidents in the future, if the MX no > longer happens to also send email. If the setup changes and the MX no longer send email then the SPF record can be updated. For now it is a quick way of saying a:php-smtp4.php.net. > If anything the 'a' within the SPF record could be removed, because that's > the HTTP box on DigitalOcean. "a" allows lists.php.net. to send email for the domain. I do not know if it does but could easily believe that administrative/error/... type messages come from there. Regards -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html #include