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I'll change mb_ucfirst using titlecase. > > > > >> > > > > >> Per my comments a month ago on the GitHub issue , I think it is = much better to use title case for mb_ucfirst() than to use upper case, sinc= e conversion of the first character to upper case has the effect of corrupt= ing text in the Georgian script, and initial lower-case ligatures are conve= rted to a form which appears like two upper case letters. So I'm pleased to= see this change to the PR. > > > > >> > > > > >> I would appreciate it if the RFC could also be updated to includ= e this detail, since my vote depends on whether title case or upper case wi= ll be used. > > > > >> > > > > >> -- Tim Starling > > > > > Hi, Tim > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your comment. > > > > > I modified to "uses unicode case title" in an RFC. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Yuya > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help me out here, but doesn't changing what is actually proposed in= an > > > > RFC **after** the vote has started invalidate the vote ? > > > > > > > > Shouldn't the vote be closed/withdrawn and restarted in that case ? > > > > > > Hi, Internals. > > > > > > Juliette, Thank you for pointing. > > > I'm mistake. > > > > > > I checked the following and it was exactly as I said. > > > https://wiki.php.net/RFC/voting#voting > > > > > > > A valid voting period must be declared when voting is started and m= ust not be changed during the vote. > > > > > > I broke this rule. In this case, should I return to "Under discussion= "? > > > I apologize to those who voted, admitting lack of discussion, I want > > > to reorganize. > > > > > > Regards > > > Yuya > > > > Hi, Internals. > > This an RFC is revert to "Under Discussion". > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto > > Referenced Section 7.3: > > > A serious issue with your RFC needs to be addressed: update the statu= s of your RFC page and its section on https://wiki.php.net/RFC to =E2=80=9C= Under Discussion=E2=80=9D and continue again from step 5. > > > > I would like to wait another two weeks to vote again. > > Scheduled for February 21st, GMT 00:00 restart voting. > > > > Please feel free to comment. > > > > I apologize to everyone who voted again. > > > > Regards > > Yuya > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Yuya Hamada (tekimen) > > - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info > > - https://github.com/youkidearitai > > ----------------------------- > > I send below message, but kicked by internals. Resend to it. > > Hi, Internals. > This is a reminder. > > If nothing another comments, This an RFC restart voting at February > 21st, GMT 00:00. > Thank you. > > Regards > Yuya > > -- > --------------------------- > Yuya Hamada (tekimen) > - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info > - https://github.com/youkidearitai > ----------------------------- Hi, Internals. Restarted voting phase to Multibyte for ucfirst, lcfirst functions, mb_ucfirst mb_lcfirst. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/mb_ucfirst Voting end at March 7th 00:00:00 GMT. Thanks Yuya --=20 --------------------------- Yuya Hamada (tekimen) - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info - https://github.com/youkidearitai -----------------------------