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I'll change mb_ucfirst using titlecase. > > > >> > > > >> Per my comments a month ago on the GitHub issue , I think it is mu= ch better to use title case for mb_ucfirst() than to use upper case, since = conversion of the first character to upper case has the effect of corruptin= g text in the Georgian script, and initial lower-case ligatures are convert= ed to a form which appears like two upper case letters. So I'm pleased to s= ee this change to the PR. > > > >> > > > >> I would appreciate it if the RFC could also be updated to include = this detail, since my vote depends on whether title case or upper case will= be used. > > > >> > > > >> -- Tim Starling > > > > Hi, Tim > > > > > > > > Thank you for your comment. > > > > I modified to "uses unicode case title" in an RFC. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Yuya > > > > > > > > > > Help me out here, but doesn't changing what is actually proposed in a= n > > > RFC **after** the vote has started invalidate the vote ? > > > > > > Shouldn't the vote be closed/withdrawn and restarted in that case ? > > > > Hi, Internals. > > > > Juliette, Thank you for pointing. > > I'm mistake. > > > > I checked the following and it was exactly as I said. > > https://wiki.php.net/RFC/voting#voting > > > > > A valid voting period must be declared when voting is started and mus= t not be changed during the vote. > > > > I broke this rule. In this case, should I return to "Under discussion"? > > I apologize to those who voted, admitting lack of discussion, I want > > to reorganize. > > > > Regards > > Yuya > > Hi, Internals. > This an RFC is revert to "Under Discussion". > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto > Referenced Section 7.3: > > A serious issue with your RFC needs to be addressed: update the status = of your RFC page and its section on https://wiki.php.net/RFC to =E2=80=9CUn= der Discussion=E2=80=9D and continue again from step 5. > > I would like to wait another two weeks to vote again. > Scheduled for February 21st, GMT 00:00 restart voting. > > Please feel free to comment. > > I apologize to everyone who voted again. > > Regards > Yuya > > -- > --------------------------- > Yuya Hamada (tekimen) > - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info > - https://github.com/youkidearitai > ----------------------------- I send below message, but kicked by internals. Resend to it. Hi, Internals. This is a reminder. If nothing another comments, This an RFC restart voting at February 21st, GMT 00:00. Thank you. Regards Yuya -- --------------------------- Yuya Hamada (tekimen) - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info - https://github.com/youkidearitai -----------------------------